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From the ELCA: Remove Pres. Trump and Hold All Responsible Who "Supported and/or Promoted the President’s False Claims About The Election"

1/8/2021

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A letter signed by the Evangelical  Lutheran Church in America is calling for President Trump's removal from office.  Even more shocking, the ELCA comes against anyone who believes the 2020 election was fraudulent saying, "In addition, we recognize the need to hold responsible not only those who invaded the Capitol, but also those who supported and/or promoted the President’s false claims about the election, or made their own false accusations." (See here) 

Buckle-up God-fearing Christians, in a country that was built on freedom of speech, half of our society, big tech and the faux-Christian community have succumbed to hate and are now calling for repercussions for those with thoughts and beliefs that are not their own.  

It is time to reexamine your relationship with God, invest in your faith, grow in your knowledge of God's Word and train up those around you to do the same.  Fear not, God is with you.  

Here is the article on the ELCA website announcing the "​ELCA presiding bishop joins NCC leaders in letter to vice president, Cabinet and Congress."​
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ELCA presiding bishop joins NCC leaders in letter to vice president, Cabinet and Congress CHICAGO (Jan. 8, 2021) — The...

Posted by Central States Synod, ELCA on Friday, January 8, 2021
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Unitarian Universalists and the ELCA's 1517 Media

8/6/2018

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Jill Braithwaite was recently hired as Vice President and Publisher at 1517 Media (see here).  1517 Media is the new name for what was formerly known as Augsburg Fortress. It is the publishing house of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA). (see here)

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What is interesting and disturbing about this ELCA hire is that Jill Braithwaite is a graduate of United Theological Seminary of the Twin Cities (see here and see her thesis here). It is a seminary where many Unitarian Universalist pastors-to-be go to study. (See here) It also has a good number of faculty and staff who are Unitarian Universalists. (See here)

Add to that the fact that Jill Braithwaite has preached at least a couple times at First Universalist Church of Minneapolis (see here and below), and as of 2014, she was a member at the Universalist church and served on the church's board of trustees and welcome team.

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Unitarian Universalism is not Christian, as the they study, follow and teach from many and various religions.  On the Unitarian Universalists website on pastor writes, "I do not believe Jesus is the sole revelation of the Divine, and I do not know, but seriously doubt, if he was raised from the dead..." (see here and see this page for additional comments about Jesus). It is obvious that most do not see Jesus as Lord and Savior, as the Son of God, as Messiah.

Instead of going into more details, here are a few additional links if you would like to know more about Unitarian Universalists. See how they describe what they believe here, what they are based on here and another article about their beliefs here.

What is going on in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America that makes it acceptable to hire someone with a Unitarian Universalist background? Are the teachings of the Unitarian Universalist church compatible with that of the ELCA?


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Head ELCA Bishop Says There May Be a Hell But She Thinks It Is Empty

9/9/2017

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(The following article was written by Rev. Tom Brock of pastorsstudy.org. You can follow Pastor Brock on Facebook - here and Twitter - here. At the end of his article, you will find a few additional comments by me.)

Elizabeth Eaton, the head Bishop of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, said in an interview that there may be a Hell, but she thinks it is empty. Contrast that to the teaching of Jesus, who said in a number of places that there is a Hell and there will be people going there (Luke 16:19-31, for example). Bishop Eaton is tragically wrong. Is it any wonder that Bishop Eaton spends time talking about transgender rights, racism, immigration, etc. but to my knowledge has never talked about the need to believe in Jesus to be saved from Hell. Some time ago she was quoted to say that it is not the business of the Church to save souls, that is God's job. Yes, Bishop Eaton, but Jesus has given that job to the Church in His last words on earth (Matthew 28:19) to "Go ye therefore and make disciples".
 
As long as liberal Protestant leaders like Eaton disbelieve Jesus' words on Hell, liberal mainline denominations will be all about political causes, and will neglect the main thing Christians are called to do: preach the necessity of faith in Christ for salvation (Acts 16:30-31).
 
Sincerely in Christ,
Pastor Tom Brock
 
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/elizabeth-eaton-presiding-bishop-evangelical-lutheran-church-in-america-chicago-if-hell-exists-i-think-its-empty-face-to-faith-podcast/

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Here is the response from ELCA Presiding Bishop Elizabeth Eaton when she was asked, "Is there a hell?" - 

Eaton: “There may be, but I think it is empty.”
 
Interviewer: "Really?"
 
Eaton: “Yes.”
 
Interviewer: "Why is that?"
 
Eaton: “Well, Jesus was clear in John chapter 3 that when He is raised up he will draw all people to himself.  And if we take a look at salvation history, ever since we got booted out of the garden, it has been God’s relentless pursuit to bring His people to God. Now, people wonder “can you say no?” I imagine you can say “no” to God. I don’t think God is going to give up on us. And if God has eternity, than God can certainly keep working on those folks. So that might be a little bit of a heresy along the lines of Origen, but no, I don’t think God gives up.”

If you doubt that the ELCA teaches universalism, here is the ELCA's presiding bishop making it clear. If hell is empty, all people are saved. That is universalism. It is a dangerous heresy, a false teaching, which puts individuals' eternal destiny at risk: faith in Christ is not needed. Live it up, worship other gods, reject Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and you will still go to heaven according to the ELCA's top bishop. 

Of course, the Bible directly says this is not so. Heaven and hell are real and people and angels will populate both. It is time to flee this false-teaching denomination. They are playing with people's eternal lives. They are not telling them the truth of how to be saved. This could not be more serious. Tell your friends and family so they are not led astray either. Share this and pray they will read it and see the truth. 


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Hindus, Muslims and Lutherans worshipping "the Oneness" together

4/17/2017

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​(The following article was written a few days ago by Rev. Tom Brock of pastorsstudy.org. ​You can follow Pastor Brock on Facebook - here and twitter - here.)
 
"Celebrating our Oneness in the Divine, an Interfaith Evening of Peace" will be held April 30th at Advent Lutheran Church in Osseo, Minnesota, a congregation of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.
 
The pastor at Advent Lutheran gives this invitation: " Are you growing weary of all the "us/them" rhetoric going on? Are you discouraged by all the division, lack of respect, even hatred?...There's a reason for that! Your soul (the real you) bears the image of its Creator God; the One source that flows in and through everything and everyone. When your soul encounters division rooted in fear its energy is lowered and diminished. You can feel this within you. It responds this way because it...intuitively knows that we are all one. I have the perfect antidote for you! Love yourself and do yourself a favor by attending...The following local communities will be gathering...: The Ja'afari Islamic Center, St. Vincent de Paul Catholic Church Noble Academy,...the Hindu Temple of Minnesota, and Advent and Westwood Lutheran Churches. Each community will offer music and spoken word from their traditions celebrating our Oneness... "
 
Two thoughts:
1. The Apostle Paul teaches that heathen gods are not the same as the one true God, they are "demons" (I Corinthians 10:20). To imply that Krishna, Vishnu, Allah, are "one" with Jesus Christ is blasphemy.
2. Christians, as opposed to Hindus, are not pantheists. Pantheism teaches that everything is God and God is everything, therefore pantheists worship everything. The above smacks of pantheism in saying God flows in and through everything and everyone. No, God does not flow through the devil or through pagan gods. Christians believe in a transcendent God who is separate from His creation. Romans 1:25 condemns religions which worship "the creature rather than the Creator."
 
I had the misfortune of visiting Advent Lutheran Church a few years ago (it is near my house) and was grieved when the above pastor during a sermon put a picture of Meher Baba on the screen and quoted him. Meher Baba was an Indian spiritual master who said he was the Avatar, God in human form.
 
Please pray about the above event. My prayer is that many parishioners at Advent Lutheran will say "Pastor, what are you doing? What about the First Commandment: Thou shalt have no other gods? What harmony has Christ with Belial? What agreement has the temple of God with idols (2 Corinthians 6:15-16)?
 
Well, tomorrow we celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. Buddha did not rise, Mohammed did not rise. Only one religion worships a living Savior. May you have a wonderful day worshipping Him!
 
In our risen Lord Jesus,
 
Pastor Tom Brock
pastorsstudy.org


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ELCA Pastor Posts That Jesus, Buddha and Mohammad Taught the Same Message

12/5/2016

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Here is another example of the Scripturally ignorant, false teaching pastors the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America has placed in ELCA congregations. 

Karen K. Torrez is a pastor in the ELCA. She posted this cartoon on her Facebook page.
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​There is a lot wrong with the cartoon the ELCA pastor posted. Those reading it could deduct false doctrines:
- all of the "gods" of other religions are equal to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
- belief in Christ is not necessary.
- all religious teachings are the same.
- all religions point to the same god.
- "love" is what is most important. 
- Mohammad was about "love." 

...To name a few.

The ELCA allows pastors who believe this evil garbage to pastor in their denomination. 
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Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him in your house and do not give him a greeting: for the one who gives him a greeting participates in his evil deed. - 2 John 9-11
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'Angry White People,' Universalism, Hindu Prayer and MOre

11/24/2015

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Could this ELCA synod be talking about conservative and/or Bible-believing Christians?  

Percentage of people of color in the #ELCA has increased not b/c we've attracted more POC but b/c the angry white people left #ntnlife #elca

— NT-NL Mission (ELCA) (@NTNLMission) October 28, 2015
They don't like you, but I would bet they will still gladly take your money. 

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The belief in universalism is strong in the ELCA, as you know if you frequent this website. Here is another example - 
 
“I believe God is big enough to have many ways to be reached; although I confess Christianity, I also believe there are many other paths to God.” – The Rev. Patt Kauffman on ELCA clergy Uncensored Facebook group. The link goes to the Closed group, which only those in the group may view. (here) 
 
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An ELCA news story about the recent terrorist attacks in Paris and Beirut does not mention the Islamic faith of the terrorists. (see here) I wonder why the ELCA is so free to condemn Israel (falsely, I might add) but they can not state the facts and motivation behind the terrorists actions we are seeing worldwide. 
 
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​Wartburg College, an Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) school, shared a video of their “Weekday Interfaith Chapel” (Sept. 30, 2015) in which a Hindu prayer was offered by the guest speaker. (see video here. View the video dated Sept. 30, 3015) 

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Nadia Bolz-Weber Says She is a Universalist

8/9/2015

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Exposing the ELCA has written extensively about the dangerous and non-Biblical belief and acceptance of the teaching of universalism ("a theological doctrine that all human beings will eventually be saved") within in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. Just last week well known ELCA pastor/author and highly sought after speaker, Nadia Bolz-Weber revealed that she believes all people will be saved. 

Rev. Bolz-Weber was interviewed by the online journal Religion & Politics:


“R&P: Would you consider yourself a universalist? Does everyone get saved in the end? 

NB: I confess that I am a Christo-centric universalist. What that means to me is that, whatever God was accomplishing, especially on the cross, that Christological event, was for the restoration and redemption and reconciliation of all things and all people and all Creation – everyone. Whatever God was getting done there, that is for everyone. How God manages to play that out through other religions, other symbol systems, I will never understand. I have to allow for the idea that God is actually nimble enough and powerful enough and creative enough to do that.” – (See here) 


Universalism is a dangerous teaching. (Read here) But once again we see a leader in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America professing it. (not to mention ELCA websites and publications that do the same)

Check out what ELCA pastor Bolz-Weber then says when asked “Do you think the future of the Church involves synthesis with other faiths?” 


“Syncretism has always been part of Christianity. There’s a reason why the Virgin of Guadalupe is huge in Mexico, and it has to do with the goddess religion that existed before that. I don’t think it’s something to fear. I think it’s the way that Christianity has survived. It lends itself in a sense towards it. And that’s why it can exist in so many different places in so many different forms.” 

Adhering to other religions (which are false) or mixing other religions with Christianity is not a problem to people like Bolz-Weber because their understanding is that everyone will go to heaven anyway, according to their universalistic belief. 

All this being said, (and all that we have reported on Nadia Bolz-Weber in the past – see here and scrolled down)  Rev. Bolz-Weber still calls herself “orthodox.” From this article, Rev. Bolz-Weber says “I’m this really orthodox Lutheran theologian.” Oxforddictionaries.com defines “orthodox” as “Following or conforming to the traditional or generally accepted rules or beliefs of a religion, philosophy, or practice.” I, for one, wouldn’t call Nadia Bolz-Weber orthodox.



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ELCA Leader Says There is No Absolute Inside Track to God

11/20/2014

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Rev. Stephen Bouman, executive director for congregational and synodical mission of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) recently attended a meeting designed “to maintain religious dialogue and seek action together for peace” between "Iraqi Sunni, Shiite, Christian, Turkmen and Kurdish religious leaders." The ELCA news service reports that at the gathering Rev. Stephen Bouman said “A second tenant [sic] is that no one gathered has special access to God; there is no absolute inside track to God.” (see here) Maybe Rev. Bouman has never read or doesn't believe what Jesus said in John 14:6, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”



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Causing Youth To Stumble: The Liberal ELCA Youth Leadership Asks Us To Trust Them

10/21/2014

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By Pastor Tom Brock of pastorsstudy.org. Facebook users can follow Pastor Brock by going here and twitter users here.

The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the most liberal of the Lutheran denominations, has a history of inviting radical speakers to its ELCA's youth conventions. As they prepare for the 2015 youth convention they tell us this:

We will announce speakers as contracts are finalized, but probably not ...before registration opens this fall. At this time, we ask you to trust the track record of the planning teams who have brought you speakers including: the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Bishop Desmond Tutu, the Rev. Nadia Bolz-Weber, President Jimmy Carter, the Rev. Dr. Tony Campolo...

Jimmy Carter has written that Jesus is not the only way of salvation. Desmond Tutu also believes many roads lead to God, and he endorses homosexuality. He has said "I would not worship a God who is homophobic...I would refuse to go to a homophobic heaven.... I mean I would much rather go to the other place." Rev. Nadia Bolz-Weber uses the "f" word in her speeches and in her most recent book. More tragically, she denies the substitutionary atonement, namely, that Jesus died in our place to pay for our sins so that God's holy wrath could be satisfied and we could be forgiven. She thinks this makes God "some kind of divine child abuser." She also held a "re-naming service" in which a transgendered person received the blessing of God in changing to another sex.

Given their track record, I encourage anyone who has youth in the ELCA (and who believes in Mark 9:32) stay away, far away, from the 2015 youth convention. And tell your friends. And please say a prayer for these youth and the ELCA.

Sincerely in Christ,

Pastor Tom Brock


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ELCA Women's Study

9/26/2014

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Posted on the internet by a Lutheran pastor -

I'm looking for resources on the dangers of inter-faith dialogue that can help me explain at a basic level to my parishioners why it is not bigoted or unloving to say on the basis of scripture that faith in Christ Jesus is the one and only way to salvation.
This month I teach all the women's circles in my congregation and once again I'm dismayed at the ELCA women's study. This first month is about the conversion of Paul and focuses on an analysis of the human experience of conversion, lifting up examples of other faith conversions, Jewish, Buddhist, Islam with the implication that these are all legitimate paths to God.
The author compares the influence of Paul and Augustine and their influence on the Christian church with a middle ages Muslim named al-Ghazali who "influenced Islam and helped Muslims relate to God both intellectually and emotionally."
She goes on to give another example of "a person who grew up Lutheran was taught that only Christians are "saved" joins a Jewish-Christian weekly Bible study and comes to appreciate the worth of other paths to God, while remaining a loyal Lutheran."
My first impulse is to rave and rant but I know the best course is to teach them out of error. Any suggestions? Please pray for me:-)


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Universalism Is Now the Standard Teaching and Truth in the ELCA

3/11/2014

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Universalism, the belief that all people will be saved, is prevalent in the ELCA. But an article in the ELCA's official publication, The Lutheran, shows us that universalism has gone from “a” belief, to “the” belief of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. The ELCA has announced to its readers that the universalism is the doctrine the denomination is now built on.

The ELCA article “Who Gets Saved?” is written by pastor Peter W. Marty and he writes:


  • “No religion possesses the whole truth on God.”

  • "But Jesus is universal Lord and Savior, not just my personal Lord and Savior. He saves the whole world, and this doesn’t happen through tribal membership."

  • “We ought to think of the work of Jesus Christ as cosmic in scope. He is the light of the world, not merely the light of the Christian community. He refuses to be co-opted by any culture or possessed by any religion. He disassembles every category that followers want to erect for believing he is exclusive to their claims. In short, Jesus shuns domestication, giving no right for one group to say to another: 'My God is better than your God.'”

  • “'And I, when I am lifted up from the earth,' says Jesus of his pending death and resurrection, 'will draw all people to myself' (John 12:32). Not some people. Not Christian people. All people.”

  • “I happen to have been born in Chicago into a Christian family. I didn’t ask to be born into this family that practiced the Christian faith; I just was. Someone else was born in Delhi, India, on the same day I was born, but into a Hindu family. That kid didn’t ask to be born into his Hindu-practicing family; he just was. Surely we cannot claim that God privileges certain ones of us with an eternal home because of our birthplace or cultural background. Nor would we want to argue that we receive a club access card because we uttered a theological formula about Jesus.” (read article here)

Lutheran Pastor Tom Brock responded to The Lutheran article on Facebook saying, “If anyone doubts that the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America pushes the heresy of universalism--the teaching that all people will be saved whether they believe in Jesus or not--see the article...from The Lutheran, the ELCA's official magazine. Tragic what the writer does with John 14:6, turning the teaching of Jesus on its ear. The author's point is that you don't really need faith in Christ to be saved. John 14:6, Acts 4:12 and 16:31 teach otherwise. No wonder the number of missionaries the ELCA sends out has gone down. If everyone is saved, no need to send missionaries.”

The other day a came across another ELCA pastor publicly proclaiming universalism. ELCA pastor Scot Ruffatto in Mukwonago, Wisconsin (former missionary of the ELCA to the Central African Republic) writes this on his church's blog:


  • “I interpret that the God revealed through Jesus Christ is saving EVERYONE no matter what.”

  • “Is it too radical to say that all people are saved through Christ whether they believe in him or not? Why should we care anyway? Wouldn’t it be great if the church proclaimed that everyone is going to heaven so stop worrying about it?” (read here)

  • “The only difference between 'us' and 'them' is that we are really fortunate to have taken the red pill and now we know the truth. The truth that all are loved, forgiven, empowered to endure this sometimes crummy world. Our job, then, is simply to tell everyone that they too can have that peace and everlasting life in Jesus. And if they don’t believe in Jesus it’s not that they go to hell, it’s simply that they are going to miss out on the fulness of life now.” (read here)

People will be going to hell for eternity because the ELCA has embraced the teaching of universalism and as a result are not proclaiming the Truth of God's Word which says, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.” - John 3:16-18

See more documentation of the ELCA teaching universalism. (here and here)


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Jesus Isn't God?

3/2/2014

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An ELCA pastor wrote the following on an ELCA facebook page which was discussing the movie "Son of God" -

"Not a great title in this era of increasingly aware inter-faith-sensitive folks who see Christian History as a history of violence done toward peoples of other faiths because Christians believed that their spokesperson or prophet was the Son of God (misunderstood to mean that Jesus was God). Son of God was originally attributed to Ceasar. The Christians wanted all to know that their allegiance was NOT to Ceasar, but to the Holy One to whom this itinerant Rabbi pointed. The One who sent me, Jesus would say. In other words, we need to make a theocentric move here in order to show consideration for our Muslim, Jewish, Hindhu, Buddhist....and all other friends. These kinds of Christocentric obsessive movies just continue to give the rest of us Christians a bad name." 
(reported by Lutheran CORE here and originally post from a closed ELCA facebook group here)

It is this pastor and the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America that give Christians a bad name, but worse than that, they are leading people away from Truth, God's Word and Faith in God the Son. 

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ELCA 'Star,' Pastor Nadia Bolz-Weber, Believes and Teaches Wiccan Goddess is Another 'Aspect' of Christian God

12/6/2013

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ELCA pastor and author Nadia Bolz-Weber is held in high esteem among the leadership of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. She is asked to speak at many large denominational gatherings and high-profile ELCA services indicating how she is revered in the denomination. The ELCA's Metropolitan New York Synod posted on Facebook that “Pastor Nadia is the closest thing the ELCA has to a rock star.”

Rev. Bolz-Weber was involved in Wicca before going to an ELCA seminary to become a pastor.

On a Bolz-Weber book publicity tour, Nadia read to the audience from her memoir about this time of her life saying, “I had never stopped believing in God, not really. But I did have to go hang out with His aunt for awhile. She is called the goddess. My first experience with Wicca . . .”

The ELCA 'rock star' goes on -

“The goddess we spoke of never felt to me like a substitute for God but simply another aspect of the divine, like God's aunt or something. When I tell other Christians of my time with the goddess I think they expect me to characterize it as a period in my life when I was misguided and that now thankfully I have come back to both Jesus and my senses. But it's not like that. I can't imagine that the God of the universe is limited to our ideas of God. I can't image that God doesn't reveal Godself in countless ways outside of the simple system of Christianity. And in a way I need a god who is bigger and more nimble and more mysterious than what I could understand or contrive.”

“In fact, I felt guided by god the whole time I sojourned outside of the church. The divine source of my life and my identity perhaps knew that I needed to bask in the female face of god for a good long while outside the church before I could ever return to it whole and able to see the divine feminine in my own traditional.” (see here)

Wicca is a religion of witches, witchcraft and pentagrams. The Christian Bible is not God's Word, according to this idolatrous religion, and they do not worship the Triune God: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The Wiccan deity is completely different from the God of the Bible. Yet the ELCA's “rock star” believes that the goddess worshipped by witches is just another dimension or persona of the God of the Bible. The female side of Him. Christians know Jesus as God's Son, but according to Bolz-Weber, the Wiccan goddess is his close relative. Another aspect of God. Like the fourth member of the Trinity?

This is heresy.

Bolz-Weber is a heretic. The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America lifts up this pastor as a leading teacher in the denomination. How could they do this? It's easy really; this is an acceptable teaching in the ELCA. The current issue of the official magazine of the ELCA, The Lutheran, states this clearly:

“And sometimes we’d wonder just what God was up to in this religiously plural world. Perhaps — here’s a specifically Christian way of putting it — our learning from our neighbors of other faiths might just be giving us glimpses into dimensions of Christ’s lordship, and the saving activity of God the Trinity, that we hadn’t been expecting.” (read here)

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Read more about the life and teachings of ELCA pastor Nadia Bolz-Weber (click here and scroll down).


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ELCA Missionary Reveals That Her Job is Not to Convert Anyone to Christ

10/23/2013

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The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America promotes that everyone, worldwide, is saved by grace. This theological position flies in the face of sound Biblical teaching. That's why you will not hear ELCA leadership respond to the question, “What must I do to be saved?” with a Biblical answer like “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved” (Acts 16:31) or “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins” (Acts 2:38).

This false understanding of salvation for all plays out clearly through the ELCA's policy for the very small number of missionaries that they send out. ELCA missionary Rev. Angela Zimmann lets everyone know what her job is NOT as a missionary of the church. She writes,

“My job as a missionary in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America is not to convert anyone to anything. The 'accompaniment model' for missionary work, to which we subscribe, is defined as walking together in solidarity, practicing interdependence and mutuality.” (read here)

Jesus said, "Go and make disciples of all nations" (Matt. 27:19). Yet in complete opposition to the Prince of Peace, an official website of the ELCA churchwide published an article whose author clearly states,

“I usually associate evangelism with an effort to convert nonbelievers to Christianity, something that makes me very uncomfortable. Too often the desire to bring about conversions grows out of a belief that nonbelievers need to be 'saved' from eternal damnation by adopting the Christian faith.

To the extent that evangelism is about 'saving souls,' I want nothing to do with it.

I approach matters of faith and belief with humility, unwilling to assert the superiority of my own religious beliefs over those of others.” (read here)

Can it be true? The ELCA and its missionaries do not seek to bring anyone to knowledge of God and faith in Jesus? There is no doubt. The ELCA once again admits it on their website Living Lutheran -

“Today, missionaries with the ELCA serve in 48 countries. . .Most missionaries from Europe and North America are now lay people with special expertise, rather than clergy intent on conversion.” (read here)

I imagine that the enemy of God is very happy that the ELCA does not seek to save anyone who does not know Christ as Lord and Savior. So if ELCA missionaries and ELCA leaders are not interested in bringing the lost to Jesus, then what is the point?


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Destroying Universalism: One has to reject the Bible to believe everyone will be saved

9/24/2013

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The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America is inundated with pastors who preach universalism.

Below you will find commentary by Dr. Robert A. J. Gagnon, an associate professor of New Testament at the Pittsburgh Theological Seminary, explaining how universalism is not Biblical. (the information below comes from Dr. Gagnon's facebook page - see here) Read it and then try to explain how any ELCA leader in their right mind could teach that everyone will be saved.

  • Robert A. J. Gagnon Russ , the problem with the universalist view is that it is anti-scriptural. Jesus, Paul, John, Luke, the writer of Hebrews, John of Patmos, etc. all indicated that most go to destruction, that only those who believe and confess Christ will be saved. The judgment sayings of Jesus alone appear in about a third to half of all his sayings. See pp. 7-12 of this article http://robgagnon.net/Reviews/homoWinkRejoinder.pdf where I gather such sayings of Jesus without even touching sayings found only in Matthew (where the rate of judgment sayings doubles) or only in John. Paul referred to unbelievers as those who have no hope and at the Lord's Supper abuse told the Corinthians that they were being disciplined in the hopes that they might not be condemned with the world. Paul frequently warned believers about not inheriting the kingdom of God if they continued in their sins. The writer of Hebrews went even further, claiming that those who departed from the Christian faith could never return. In Acts even the Godfearer Cornelius is told by God that he will hear the message of the gospel by which he will be saved if he believes, presuming that all his sincerity and goodness without Christ avail nothing unless he accepts the gospel.
  • Instead of making it easier to enter the kingdom of God, Jesus demanded that his followers deny themselves, take up their cross, and lose their life (Mark 8:34-37); cut off any body part that threatens their downfall lest their whole body be sent to hell (Matt 5:29-30; Mark 9:43-48); and fear not humans but God who can send both body and soul to hell (Matt 10:28 // Luke 12:4-5 [Q]). Jesus compared those who did not manifest transformed lives to salt that, when it loses its taste, is good for nothing and gets thrown out (Luke 14:34-35 // Matt 5:13 [Q]; cf. Mark 9:49-50). Only those “who endure to the end,” he insisted, “will be saved” (Mark 13:13). Far from proclaiming a broad entrance into the path of salvation, Jesus proclaimed the exact opposite: “Enter through the narrow door [or: gate], for many will seek to enter and few are those who enter through it” (Matt 7:13-14 // Luke 13:23-34 [Q]). Not only will those who make no pretense to following Jesus be in dire straits, but so also will be many who claim to know Jesus: “When the master of the house gets up and shuts the door and you . . . [say], ‘Lord, open for us,’ . . . he will say . . .: ‘I do not know you; stand away from me, you who work lawlessness’” (Luke 13:25-27 // Matt 7:13-14, 22; 25:10-12 [Q]). Jesus condemned in the strongest possible terms several towns near the northern shore of the Sea of Galilee (Capernaum, Chorazin, and Bethsaida) for refusing to accept his message: “As far as Hades you shall come down” (Luke 10:13-15 // Matt 11:22-24 [Q]). Indeed, he referred to his contemporaries as an “evil generation” and an “adulterous and sinful generation” that will face great judgment because of their refusal to repent in response to his proclamation (Luke 11:29-32 // Matt 12:39-41 [Q]; Mark 8:38). Moreover, Jesus told his own followers to make similar assessments about the destruction to befall places that reject the gospel. He considered the reception of his messengers to be determinative for reception of himself and ultimately of God. Although Jesus emphasized reclaiming and restoring the lost in his message and ministry he still set this leitmotif against the backdrop of warnings about, and images of, coming judgment.
  • Every assurance of eternal life in the Gospel of John falls only to those who believe in Jesus, including the famous John 3:16: “For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, in order that everyone who believes in him might have eternal life” (see also, for example, 3:15, 36; 5:24; 6:40, 47, 54, 68; 11:25-27). The text doesn’t say: “God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, in order that believing in Christ might be merely the preferred means by which someone is saved, lest anyone restrict the wide grace of God and presume to determine for God who will belong to his people.” In fact, John’s Jesus goes on to say to Nicodemus quite the opposite: "The one who believes in [the Son] is not being judged, but the one who does not believe has already been judged because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. . . . The one who believes in the Son has eternal life but the one who disobeys the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him" (3:18, 36).
  • Not coming to faith in Jesus means remaining in the condition of darkness and judgment in which one already existed before Christ came (1:5). Thus: “I have come as light into the world, in order that everyone who believes in me may not remain in darkness” (12:46). “I told you that you would die in your sins; for if you do not believe that ‘I am’ [or: I am he; i.e. the Son of God sent from heaven] you will die in your sins” (8:24). John’s Gospel even singles out faith in Christ and in his redemptive work, not just the redemptive work itself, as “the” one and only essential response to God that remedies the universal condition of being without eternal life:

    "This is the work of God [i.e. the work that God requires to have eternal life]: that you believe in the one whom [God] sent. . . . I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats from this bread he will live forever; and the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh. . . . Amen, amen, I say to you: Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood (i.e. believe in him and him alone), you have no life in yourselves." (6:29, 51, 53)

    Similarly, in the discourse following his healing of a lame man, Jesus says:

    "The one who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him. Amen, amen I say to you that the one who hears my word and believes the one who sent me has eternal life and does not come into judgment but has passed from death to life. . . . And [my Father’s] word you do not have remaining in you because the one whom That One sent, this one you do not believe. . . . And you do not want to come to me in order to have life. . . . If you believed Moses you would believe me, for that one wrote about me." (5:23-24, 38, 40, 46; cf. 8:42-44, 47)

    Transitioning from death to life is thus marked by, and only by, believing in Jesus. Before belief, one’s condition is one of “death,” not “life.” Coming to Jesus alone brings life. Even a Jew who follows Moses, but not Jesus the Messiah, is separated from God—how much more a Gentile who follows anyone or anything else. To the formerly blind man Jesus asks one simple question, the answer to which will determine whether he truly “sees” or belongs with those who remain spiritually blind: “Do you believe in the Son of Man?” (9:35-41).

    The Gospel at an earlier stage of its history closed with the words: “Now I have written these things in order that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and in order that, by believing, you may have eternal life in his name” (20:31). This note forms an inclusio with the prologue of the Gospel: “As many as received him, he gave to them authority to become children of God, to those who believe in his name” (1:12). As with the New Testament generally, this faith in Christ is neither a one-time act nor a merely intellectual assent to prepositional truths about Christ. It is rather a genuine, lifelong trust that results in transformation. If it does not result in a transformed life lived for God, then the one who is joined to Christ becomes like “a branch in me that does not bear fruit,” which is “removed” from the vine and “thrown into the fire and burns” (15:1-6).

    More could be said about the Gospel of John, to say nothing of the Johannine Epistles, but this is enough to establish a consistent presumption on the part of the Fourth Evangelist: Faith in Christ is necessary for inheriting eternal life and entering into the Light. Not even the exercise of faith in God within the context of early Judaism was enough to avert judgment, to say nothing of faith in the context of “pagan” religions. How then could the “anonymous Christian” model work for John’s Christology and soteriology? If such thoughts presumptuously limit God’s sovereign freedom, restrict God’s grace, and substitute God’s determination of the redeemed for a human determination, then the Fourth Evangelist, along with Paul and Luke, is profoundly guilty on all counts. This is not such bad company for the church to keep, is it?
  • That Paul worked with an operating premise that all unbelievers would perish is clear, and not only from the discussion of Israel in Romans 9-11 broached above. Paul comforted his converts at Thessalonica with the assurance that they had a resurrection hope, unlike the rest of the world that had “no hope” (1 Thess 4:13). To the Corinthians he declared that divine chastening for their abuse of the celebration of the Lord’s Supper was intended to have a reforming effect, “in order that you might not be condemned with the world” (1 Cor 11:32). Paul could make such remarks almost as asides because they were not controversial views of the early church.
  • Paul saw a strong dichotomy between those who received the gospel in faith and were being saved, on the one hand, and those who did not believe and were perishing, on the other hand. “The message of the cross,” he noted to the Corinthians, “is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to those who are being saved it is the power of God” (1 Cor 1:18). Paul, noting that he and his coworkers “make apparent the smell of the knowledge of [Christ] in every place,” added: “We are the aroma of Christ to God among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing: to the latter a smell of death leading to death, but to the former a smell of life leading to life” (2 Cor 2:14-16).

    Even for his Galatian converts to take on circumcision would have meant being “discharged from Christ” and “falling out of grace” (Gal 5:4). When Paul laid out again the core gospel in 1 Cor 15:3-4, he prefaced it by asserting that this is “the gospel that I proclaimed to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, through which you are also being saved . . . if you are holding firmly to it—otherwise you believed for no reason” (15:1-2). Once again, it is not even enough to have believed the gospel at one time, to say nothing of never having believed it. One must also continue to “hold firmly” to it if one is to be saved.

    Some might argue in the face of such texts that condemnation awaits only those who hear the gospel and reject it. However, if that were so, then bringing the gospel to unreached people-groups would be more bad news than good, for it would put large numbers of people at risk for not accepting the gospel—people who otherwise would not be at risk. Paul started with the assumption that the entire world was enslaved to sin, justly deserving of God’s sentence of death (Rom 1:18-3:20). Only believing in the gospel of what Christ had done for us, with an accompanying transformation of life, could bring a deliverance leading to eternal life.

    “The gospel,” Paul stated in his opening theme statement to his magisterial letter to the Romans (1:16-17), “is God’s capacity (or: power) to effect salvation.” Yet it is so only “for everyone who believes” the gospel. This is “first” and foremost true “for the Jew” but also “for the Greek” or Gentile. “God’s righteousness,” that is, God’s faithfulness and truthfulness to his promises of old to bring salvation to the redeemed of Israel and of the world, “is revealed from faith to faith” (i.e. on the basis of faith, from first to last). God’s righteousness is disclosed to, and takes effect for, only those who put their trust in the good news about God’s long-awaited salvation.

    The same point is made by Paul all over again in Rom 3:21-26 when he defines for the first time in the letter what the content of the gospel is. “The righteousness of God has been manifested . . . through faith in Jesus Christ for all who are believing (the gospel),” without any distinction being made between Jew and Gentile (3:21-23; cf. 10:12). God’s redemption in Christ is “through faith” such that God “justifies the person whose existence is based on faith in Jesus” (3:24-26).

    Paul nowhere implies in Romans or anywhere else that God has some other option for the world—an extraordinary omission, if omission there is, for someone who viewed himself as apostle to the entire Gentile world. Surely he thought about the fate of Gentiles that he did not reach. The operating premise of Paul and of the rest of the New Testament witness is not: If people do not hear the gospel but seek God in the only way they know how, they too will be saved. That is the life that Paul lived before coming to faith in Christ. It was a life full of personal religious attainments and full of “zeal for God” (Phil 3:4-6; Gal 1:13-14; cf. Rom 10:2). Given too parallels in Qumran literature it was also a life that fully recognized his own personal shortcomings in relation to God and daily sought forgiveness for such shortcomings—not a stereotypical life of legalism. Yet it was a life that Paul, as a believer, could only characterize as a “loss,” as “excrement,” in comparison with “knowing Christ.” Even his new life in Christ consisted of an earnest quest to “gain Christ” and to be “conformed to his death, if somehow I might attain to the resurrection from the dead” (Phil 3:7-11)—how much more precarious the former life?

    In 1 Cor Paul warned the Corinthians that going to idol temples and engaging in sexual immorality could get them excluded from the kingdom of God (chs. 5; 6:9-20; ch. 10). He even indicated that he himself could be disqualified if he did not engage in rigorous spiritual discipline like an Olympic athlete (9:24-26).
  • Luke presumes everywhere in Acts that believing in Jesus Christ is a necessary precondition for salvation (a precondition, of course, that is in no way personally meritorious).

    Even the Godfearer Cornelius, a righteous Gentile, is not assured of salvation on the basis of life of conscience. He is rather told that he will hear from Peter the gospel message, “words to you by which you and all your household will be saved” (Acts 11:14). That message is the very message of salvation through faith in Christ: “To this one [Jesus] all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name” (Acts 10:43). Note carefully the operating premise of Acts 10-11: Cornelius, though already a Gentile who was “devout and fearing God . . . , making many charitable contributions to the [Jewish] people and praying to God constantly” (10:2), was not saved and had not yet received forgiveness of sins—things that would only come about when he came to faith in Christ.
  • Surely if any Gentile could have received forgiveness of sins and be saved apart from hearing the gospel message, it would have been Cornelius. And yet the requirement placed on him differed in no way from the requirement placed on the probably less devout Philippian jailer, who asked, “What must I do to be saved?” Paul’s response to the jailor is the same as Peter’s response to Cornelius: “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved” (16:30-31). Paul and Silas did not say to the jailor, “Well, normally, believe in Christ, but we wouldn’t want to claim to be the determiners of who belongs to God or in any way restrict the grace of God to those who profess explicit faith.”

    When Peter (as depicted by Luke) spoke to fellow ordinary Jews at Pentecost he assumed that they would all perish unless they heeded the command to “repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins may be forgiven” (2:38), which Peter later connects with “faith in his name” (3:16, 19).

    Likewise, when Peter proclaimed to the Jewish “rulers, elders, and scribes assembled in Jerusalem” he declared that “there is not in any other person [than Jesus Christ] salvation, for neither is there another name [than the name of Jesus, 4:10], which has been given under heaven among humans, by which we must (dei) be saved” (4:12). His hearers did not understand him as saying that it was not necessary to “profess explicit faith in Christ” to be saved. They understood him as saying that the only certain way that even they, Israel’s high-priestly family (4:6), could be saved was by believing in this Jesus of Nazareth as God’s sole redemptive agent.

    We see the same thing going on throughout Luke’s depiction of Paul’s missionary journeys. When Paul entered the synagogue in Pisidian Antioch, he likewise assumed that forgiveness of sins for all his Jewish and God-fearing hearers was contingent upon believing in Christ: “Let it be known to you, men, brothers, that through this one [Jesus] forgiveness of sins is being proclaimed to you, and from all the things you could not be justified [or: made right, acquitted] in the law of Moses, by this one everyone who believes [i.e. in him] is being justified [or: made right, acquitted]” (13:38-39). The implication is clear: those who do not believe in Christ are not absolved from the law’s condemnation. Those who reject the message show themselves “to be unworthy of eternal life” (13:46).

    Similarly in a Gentile context, when Paul and Barnabas arrived back in Syrian Antioch after proclaiming the gospel of salvation in Christ to the Gentiles in southern Turkey, “they related . . . how [God] had opened for the Gentiles a door of faith” that made it possible for the Gentiles to be saved (14:27).

    Shortly after the incident in Europe with the Philippian jailor (cited above), they arrived in Athens. Even when Paul spoke before a philosophical crowd he told them that though God formerly “overlooked the times of ignorance,” he was “now,” since the coming and resurrection of the judge of all humanity, “command[ing] all people everywhere to repent” and (this is implied) receive Christ (17:30-31).

    To the Ephesian elders gathered at Miletus Paul declared that he was innocent of the blood of every person inasmuch as he had “testified to both Jews and Greeks about repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus” (20:21).

    Paul recounted before Agrippa the revelation of Christ to him on the road to Damascus, in which Jesus told him: “I am sending you [to the Gentiles] to open their eyes so that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me” (26:19). Again, the assumption here is that the entire Gentile world is in darkness, under the power of Satan, and bereft of both forgiveness and a place in God’s kingdom—all of which can only be rectified by the proclamation of the gospel and a response of faith in Christ.

    Finally, when Paul arrived in Rome and proclaimed the gospel to “the local leaders of the Jews,” with some convinced but “others refus[ing] to believe,” he declared that “this salvation of God” would be “sent to the Gentiles; they will listen” (28:24, 28). Once more we see the clear operating premise: apart from believing in Christ your situation is a desperate one of ‘un-salvation.’

    Everywhere in Acts and to all whom the two great pillars of the church, Peter and Paul, encounter, whether ordinary Jews or the highest Jewish religious officials, whether pious Gentiles or immoral pagans, whether philosophers or idolaters, the operating premise is: If you don’t believe in Christ you will not be saved.






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