The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America is wading into the political realm and once again placing their own fanciful and dubious dreams above the safety and security of the Jewish people. Last week the ELCA sent out an advocacy action alert asking readers to “(t)ell your elected officials: Support a negotiated deal with Iran.”
Many in the United States and Israel are saying the current deal with Iran is bad, but here we have the ELCA calling for a negotiated nuclear deal with them.
Let's look at and respond to some of the statements from the ELCA's action alert:
That is not true. I bad deal is worse than no deal for the Israelis (who Iran constantly threatens to destroy), the Palestinians and all of Iran's neighbors. An armed conflict is better than allowing the evil regime to obtain nuclear warheads and make good on their threat to wipe out the Jewish state.
Wrong again. A deal that allows Iran to get nuclear weapons or a deal that can not guaranty that Iran abides by the rules, makes for a terrifying world. Iran is the number one supporter and purveyor of terrorism. They call the United States “the great Satan.” They call for our destruction. They are developing missiles that can reach America.
A bad deal is worse than no deal.
That is a big assumption. Can you say “North Korea?” And thinking that Iran will comply with the rules is naive at best. They have a long history of breaking the rules with the United Nations regarding their quest for nuclear power (weapons).
Seriously? Get on with the Iran deal so we can focus on the main problem of the Israeli-Palestinian issue? That issue is so important to the ELCA that they have to insert it into the conversation about stopping Iran from getting nuclear weapons?
To be frank, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America is not an honest broker when it comes to Israel. (see here and here) The ELCA view of a deal between Israel and Palestinians has the Palestinians getting most all of their demands and Israel getting a “promise” of peace.
Again the ELCA is wrong. The threat of new sanctions will increase the likelihood of a “good” deal with Iran, as will the need of congressional approval for a deal.
The ELCA and President Obama need to step back and let the nation at most risk of being attacked by a nuclear Iran (Israel) have the ultimate say on whether a deal should be made. Because sadly, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America and the president do not have Israel's best interest or survival in mind.
3/25/2015 02:30:22 am
Where can I find a new church??? I no longer want to be part of the ELCA, but there is not an NALC church within an hour of my home. My husband grew up Catholic so he says that is not an option. The other protestant denominations seem to be following suit w/ the ELCA. I would like to attend church somewhere that is biblical and politically conservative, yet not overly political. What's left??
3/25/2015 04:45:32 am
Helen, are there any non-ELCA Lutheran churches near by? Here is a list of alternative Lutheran denominations you can check out and see if any are in your area- http://www.exposingtheelca.com/alternatives-to-the-elca.html
3/25/2015 05:17:48 am
Unfortunately all the Lutheran churches near here are ELCA. There was a MS church close but it closed a few years ago. I moved to the south from the Midwest two years ago and just not sure where to go. The stance on Israel was my last straw but honestly I should've jumped ship a long time ago.
3/26/2015 12:11:42 am
Why is Catholicism not an option? If your choices are limited, why not join the Cathoic Church? They hold true to the tenets of the faith and do not dare wade into apostasy like the ELCA.
3/26/2015 04:00:57 am
Helen, where do you live? There are groups in prayer as they consider starting a mission congregation of the LCMC or NALC. It is difficult to get the word out at that early stage of planning so you may not even know who is around you.
3/25/2015 04:43:57 am
The ELCA has zip expertise in nuclear war doctrine and technology. They embarrass themselves and their church pretending they have the faintest clue on these issues. Do you think they have one person on staff how has studied nuclear war game theory or worked on nuclear war scenarios at the Pentagon? Not likely. It's probably someone with a religious studies, pure liberal arts background showing their ignorance.
3/26/2015 09:33:41 am
I have one foot out the door of my ELCA church and also can find no Lutheran alternatives in southeast PA. My daughter's family just left and joined a nondenominational church with Southern Baptist foundations. I'm considering joining them. The ELCA has left me after 64 years.
heidi k. brunner
4/2/2015 09:37:50 am
Dear Marcia, have you contacted the NALC church in Blue Bell, I contacted them about a year ago and said they would strictly adhere to biblical doctrine, contact them in Blue Bell,I'm in Chester County and disabled so it's a little far for me as I can't drive,hopefully they have not caved in, they seem and sound friendly and say anyone is welcome
4/2/2015 12:56:30 pm
Thanks, Heidi. Blue Bell is about 35 miles from where I live. I would not want to travel that far. As a church member I want to be able to be involved often and not just travel there once a week. Sometimes I'm at my current ELCA church almost every day! Not for long though sadly.
3/26/2015 11:47:27 am
Gentlemen, thanks for your responses. I'm in central N.C. The Catholic Church is not an option for various reasons but I do appreciate their adherence.
3/26/2015 03:45:57 pm
Helen, although LCMC and NALC congregations are scarce in the urban piedmont areas, there are a number of Anglican, LCMS, and WELS congregations there, which you might visit. God bless your search.
3/26/2015 12:44:38 pm
It's almost as if the ELCA were under the direct control of the Obama administration.
3/26/2015 03:50:30 pm
I left my ELCA church and have been going to LC-Missouri Synod. Friendliest folks and true to the Bible & Lutheran Confessions. After speaking with the Pastor, was allowed to take communion first Sunday I attended services.
3/28/2015 09:51:28 am
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