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Voices in the Wilderness

9/12/2014

2 Comments

 
Critical comments from readers printed in The Lutheran to the ELCA/publishers of the magazine: 

"Not buying it
I am all for elevating people out of poverty (July, page 16). But I do not share your cheerleading enthusiasm that paints economic inequality as demonic injustice. Nor do I share your animosity toward the so-called '1 percent.' I thought the Bible was a staunch critic of envy. Oh, I forgot this is all Democratic Party talking-points. Carry on.

The Rev. John R. Thompson
Treasure Island, Fla.
"
(read here)

"Enough already
Marty’s article distracts from, rather than enriches, our worship of God. Why would it bother anyone to think of God in masculine terms? Is God ever referred to in the Bible as anything but 'he'? We cannot make God over to fit our human terms because God is God. Traditional hymns in Evangelical Lutheran Worship have already been reworded to avoid masculine pronouns for God. Now this. Enough.

Hildegard P. Lamparter
Lititz, Pa.
"
(read here)


“Politicized gospel
The recent visit by ELCA bishops to Congress (May, page 4) reminds all yet again of church leaders’ devotion to a politicized, self-absorbed gospel. Peter advises Christ’s followers to 'always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.' Confident believers answer by boldly confessing Christ crucified and raised from the dead. But our bishops’ hope centers on convincing lawmakers to spend other people’s money on the ELCA’s lofty causes. Cheap grace indeed.

Cliff Hadley
Huron, S.D.
"
(read here)

“Law and gospel
Once again Marty shows that neither he nor this denomination is in any way, shape or form Lutheran (May, page 3). Instead of discussing 'The Ten Words' as the law, which serves as a curb, a guide and principally a mirror, he denigrates obedience to them (which sinners can never fully achieve). Funny how Jesus told those whom he healed to 'go and sin no more.' God does command us to do things we cannot do. That’s why God fulfilled the law himself for us (the gospel).

Drew Kornreich
Los Alamos, N.M.
"
(read here)


2 Comments
Didaskalos link
9/12/2014 11:39:38 pm

Don't these confessional Lutherans know that the ELCA scrapped its "bound conscience" blandishments shortly after the Great Bible Bowdlerizing Convention of '09? How dare they criticize the Church of the Exalted Me?

What happened to David Yeago might happen to you, dissident parishioners. (Unless, of course, you're still propping up the moribund ELCA with your offering dollars.)

". . . David Yeago is on the same page as Jenson. The title of his essay pretty much summarizes his argument and the overarching argument of the whole volume: “Grace and the Good Life—Why the God of the Gospel Cares How We Live.” (77) In his essay he agrees with Jenson that “we cannot agree about Christ if we disagree about substantial matters of moral teaching.” (78) He then fleshes out his argument by pointing to the crucial importance of divine law in creation, the imago dei (our creation in the image and likeness of God), and in the Christian life. “Substantial agreement about Christ must involve substantial agreement about the law,” and in his view the ELCA has departed from authentic teaching of the law, and, therefore, of Christ.

"He follows Jenson on another matter—his uncertainty about whether adherents of traditional Christian moral teaching should break unity with a revisionist church. When he wrote this essay he called the situation in the ELCA one of “impaired communion,” and counseled that dissenters should protest within the denomination, much as Small recommends to his fellow Presbyterians. However, nothing clears up uncertainty about staying or leaving more quickly than being dismissed from one’s job at an ELCA seminary in spite of being the most distinguished systematic theologian in its seminaries. Yeago is no longer in impaired communion in the ELCA. He is the NALC’s systematic theologian in its new seminary that is in cooperation with the Anglican Church of North America’s Trinity School for Ministry in Ambridge, Pennsylvania."

-- "Churches, Division & Sex" http://juicyecumenism.com/2014/09/01/churches-division-sex/



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Chemnitz
9/16/2014 08:35:13 am

The Lutheran publishes comments such as these so that it can claim to present divergent opinions. However, these critical comments are so rare, so out numbered, and so buried beneath the "party line," those who read them are few and the effect they have is miniscule.

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