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The ELCA's Poor Judgement?

5/3/2012

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Over a year ago, ELCA Presiding Bishop chose to join forces with Dan Savage and his “It Gets Better” anti-bullying project by making a video aimed toward lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender youth.  (see Exposing the ELCA’s blog about it here)  Dan Savage is an author, media pundit, journalist and sex advice columnist.  He is also a well know gay activist.
 
Mr. Savage must have liked Bishop Hanson’s video because he chose to include Bishop Hanson’s transcript from the video in a “It Gets Better” book Mr. Savage was editing. Not only that, but Bishop Hanson must have been proud of this because the ELCA sent out a news release about him being in the book. (see here) And as of today the ELCA is promoting Dan Savage’s work on the ELCA website. (see here)

So lets learn more about this person Bishop Hanson chose to work with.  

Not more than a month ago Dan Savage made news for the anti-Christian, Bible-bashing attack speech he gave to a large group of high school journalism students.  Below are just a couple of things Dan Savage said there: (warning for foul language)

“We can learn to ignore the b******* in the Bible and what it says about gay people.” (see here)

“It’s funny as someone who is on the receiving end of beatings that are justified by the Bible how pansy-assed people react when you push back.” (read here)

ClitizenLink blogger, Candi Cushman, said this about Savage and his speech, “Using profanity to deride the bible – and then mocking the Christian students after they left the room — is obviously a form of bullying and name-calling.” (read here) Remember that Savage is the founder of the anti-bullying project Bishop Hanson participated in.

Just so you know, Dan Savage has been saying vile things for a long time, things that any God honoring denomination would not want to be part of.  In July 16, 2011 Dan Savage was videotaped saying some things that are so vile, hateful and disgusting I can not post them.  (Go to the linked reports here and here if you want to read/see it.) 

Just for good measure, two more article about Mr. Savage, “‘Face of Progressive Hate?’ Gay Rights Activist Dan Savage Goes on Graphic Rant About Homosexuality & the Pope.” (see here) and

“In 2000, Savage boasted of licking door knobs at then-presidential candidate Gary Bauer's campaign office in an attempt to give Bauer the flu.” (see here)

For someone who talks and acts like Savage, who spews such filth and seems to hate Christians who believe the Bible, I find it disturbing that the ELCA's Presiding Bishop
chose to work with him and that the ELCA's website continues to promote his work.  Maybe its a case of the ELCA leadership using poor judgement. . .at least I hope that is their reason. 
5 Comments
Stacey
5/4/2012 12:36:44 am

Unfortunately, this is becoming all too common with the ELCA. It's appalling the type of people, speech and behavior that they repeatedly choose to associate with. I would like to think if this guy showed up at my church spewing this kind of stuff, he would promptly be shown the door, not made the president of the congregation! I guess that's another section of the Bible that the ELCA feels we can disregard - all the advice about who we associate with and what types of behavior we condone. So much for setting an example, huh? So much for "in it, not of it!"

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Didaskalos
5/5/2012 12:06:31 am

Mr. Savage is more honest and forthright than ELCA leaders. Savage knows that the Bible unequivocally judges homosexual behavior to be sin; he just advises people to ignore that Biblical condemnation. The ELCA leadership, after decades of having ELCA commissions "study" the issue, pretends that the Bible doesn't really condemn homosexual sex. It's all a matter of one's "bound conscience," don't you see. Don't like what you read in the Bible? ELCA leaders have the answer: Just pretend it doesn't say what it plainly says

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Didaskalos
5/4/2012 10:48:46 am

The ELCA's fawning endorsement of the bullying, vituperative, vulgar, and anti-Christian Mr. Savage is nothing if not consonant with its fawning efforts to earn the world's favor. Long-ago forgotten by the ELCA hierarchy is the Biblical warning, "Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God."

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Qoheleth
5/6/2012 05:20:15 am

The leaders of the ELCA are again shown to be chasing after the wind. When you are trying to be timely and accomodating, things just change directions and you have to try to run that way instead.

The interesting part of Mr. Savage's remarks is that he appears to instruct folks to just ignore the parts of the Bible that "the Bible got wrong." Such advice would imply that there are also parts of the Bible that "the Bible got right." To be sure, everyone is in favor of "love", especially when we can define it any way we want to. But.. what else is there _in the whole Bible_ that Mr. Savage would endorse? Why doesn't he just be forthright and declare that the entire Bible is a collection of myths, stories and half-truths? Hey, he'd have plenty of company with Marcus Borg and the rest.

The ELCA: It's going to keep getting worse.

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Janet Y Muldoon
5/8/2012 08:27:05 am

This is the blatent ideology of secular humanism versus the ideology of Jesus Christ. The ELCA has fallen to former. When will their eyes be opened? What will it take? Who has given the ELCA the power to support and define children and youth before their age of reason and full development?

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