Shared by an ELCA member who wishes to remain anonymous Just as Bishop Eaton likes to make social statements on every single progressive partisan issue she can find, I find myself in the position needing to make my own statement about the recent published documents about the need for more DEI indoctrination within the church, and the inevitable decisions that will be made at the next Churchwide Assembly that will complete the ELCA’s transition from a Mainline Protestant denomination into a partisan social justice activist group…
Honestly, out of all the things you’ve ever posted on here, those 2 documents scare me the most. (links to the two ELCA Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Accessibility documents here and here) When I see the ridiculous articles about “Brazenly Queer” pastors, the absurd partisan statements from Bishop Eaton, churches hosting drag shows and reciting the Sparkle Creed, it’s easy to think “how will this affect my congregation?” and stay put. But if all of this stuff passes, then the ELCA’s partisan agenda WILL indeed affect my individual home congregation. DEI sessions will become mandated as part of regular worship, sermons will increasingly talk about social justice issues instead of the week’s gospel lesson, and we’ll have to do joint worship services with another congregation just because their majority skin color happens to be different from ours. What the ELCA is doing here is nothing short of indoctrination, the kind that people like Ron DeSantis are trying so hard to push back against. The church, as we all know, is governed by a far-left overhead, and yet through the years they’ve had a very hard time pushing their ideology into individual congregations. So now, they’ve had enough, and think the only way they can spread their partisan agenda is to FORCE congregations to indoctrinate their congregants. They know these are partisan political issues, but they think if they use the Bible to back up their positions that people will just magically buy in. The thing is, as I said yesterday, the Bible verses they have picked do little to support their leftist agenda. I think this will be eye-opening for the hundreds of thousands of congregants within the ELCA that are more conservative and moderate. They will realize that those Bible verses have nothing to do with DEI. They will finally be forced to make a choice - continue being ELCA members or go somewhere else and worship God. Pastors and, ahem, “Pastrixes” will no longer be able to do “safe sermons” that don’t touch on hot button political issues, as most still do now. I also think a lot of clergy will end up leaving because of this whole mess, even more moderate/liberal clergy that would prefer to preach the Bible and not indoctrinate on humanism/socialism. When I tell my liberal friends about stuff like this, they will claim I’m the racist, that I’ve haven’t done enough research and education regarding the inequities in society between men and women, whites and blacks. The thing is, I have. I know that black communities remain disproportionately poor. I know that women face sexual harassment in the workplace much more than men do. But, in my opinion, these are not church issues. As a church, we are to help the poor every chance that we can, including communities of color. As a church, we must stress that both men and women are made in God’s image and deserve equal rights and respect. As a church, we must teach that sin is sin but also to “love the sinner” and refrain from judgment (I have several gay friends). This is not an excuse, however, to indoctrinate congregants on Critical Race Theory, Queer Theory, Gender Theory, etc. The whole notion that the US is an “inherently racist country” and that “we need to completely dismantle our legal systems to prevent racism” is not only not true, but is directly at odds with the Bible and has no place being taught in the Church. I’ve seen many ELCA pastors, including one of my own, give money towards reparations for black people. Do you think Jesus would hand out money to people based on skin color? We all know the answer to that. Black people and white people are equally sacred and holy. The way to move away from our racist past is not to force black congregations to merge with white congregations. The way to move away from our racist past is not to divide us into categories based on race. If Martin Luther King, Jr were alive today he would be a staunch conservative. He wanted a society where people would be judged based on the content of their CHARACTER, not based on skin color, which is precisely what Critical Race Theory does. The ELCA is the most white denomination in the country, and national clergy hate this with a burning passion. Instead of just blindly stating “we’re a racist church,” they should take a step back and try to understand why this is. First of all, Lutheranism came to America through German and Scandinavian immigrants, and many congregations today are made up of the descendants of those immigrants. Secondly, if you take a look at the kind of churches that are popular with the black community, none of them are nearly as socially progressive as the ELCA. Many blacks, especially in the South and Midwest, are very socially conservative. It’s just that nobody realizes this since most of them still vote for Democratic politicians because they view the Republican Party as being a bunch of white supremacists. I don’t think the ELCA’s current brand of “toxic positivity” toward contemporary social issues appeals to many in the black community. It is so hard for me to make a decision here. I love my congregation and I’ve been employed at ELCA-affiliated institutions. There are many wonderful people within the organization. But if all of this passes and congregations become essentially chapters of the ACLU with some Bible verses thrown in for good measure, then I will be out the door. I will probably go to the Catholic church, as it’s become the new mainline church, one that truly does respect those on both sides of the political spectrum. Pope Francis may be progressive by Catholic standards, but when comparing him to Elizabeth Eaton and countless others within the ELCA (and the PCUSA, and the Episcopal Church, and the UCC, and the Unitarian Universalists), he is a true moderate. I have Catholic friends and relatives that are waiting for me over there. It may be sad to leave the church I’ve always called home, but (it) may also be necessary.
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11/30/2023 01:45:09 pm
The eternally most important question is, of course, whether the ELCA is preaching the true Gospel that is able through the power of the Holy Spirit to bring sinners to repentance and saving faith in Jesus Christ, who in His own words in John 14:6 is the only way to God the Father and eternal life.
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Born again
11/30/2023 04:01:03 pm
Before I make my main point. As far as blacks continuing to be poor and lag whites, but it is not just whites. They lag Asians, among others. But you can trace a lot of this to Lyndon Johnson and his ‘great society’ welfare state. I will not use his words because they are offensive, but he said he will have dependent blacks voting Democrat forever, as long as they get the free handouts.
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Anonymous
11/30/2023 08:36:59 pm
This is the guy that wrote this post. Yeah the Catholic Church has its flaws for sure, but it’s definitely much more Bibically-based than a lot of denominations these days. Non-denominational Protestantism definitely isn’t for me. Sermons always seem to be too shallow and simplistic, and the bulk of the service is the same pop-rock anthems with lighting effects week after week. It’s like a Vacation Bible School for adults. Too much prosperity gospel for me as well. Not liking the woke agenda of the ELCA doesn’t mean buying into “faith in God will make you rich and wealthy.” Those are 2 extremes.
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Born again
12/3/2023 11:03:24 am
Like I said, try Pastor Allen Jackson or someone like him. No prosperity stuff there. A lot of these mainline churches have years to bureaucratic build up between the parishioners & a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. But to each his own.
Steve Gillespie
11/30/2023 04:08:10 pm
Well said. I left my church after 53 years. My feelings of sadness are overridden by disgust. I refuse to dwell on it, but instead am looking forward. Life is too short, God is too good, and living a happy, positive and fulfilling life is my focus.
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Snuggarunt
12/1/2023 06:24:02 am
The ELCA is a fearless church, alright! Today, if not at its inception, it is not afraid to put God to a Foolish Test! Does membership in this denomination make one complicit? If one truly fears God, the decision to leave should not be a problem. But, where to go to next? Sad that this writer is so into politics and ties to friends and family, he/she does not consider Scriptural fidelity, as found in confessional Lutheranism, as being critical. Cause historical criticism, which is also found in Roman Catholicism, is what led the ELCA astray in the first place! But then, that would require repentance. And to many within the ELCA, that is considered to be a "work"!
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