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ELCA's Most Popular Pastor Decides What Parts of the Bible are NOT the Word of God, Calls Some of Paul's Writings 'Wretched' and Just 'His Snotty Opinions'

5/16/2014

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She hangs out with ELCA bishops, she speaks on the biggest ELCA stages, she is more popular and revered than Martin Luther in the denomination, but her theology is poison. Its ELCA pastor Nadia Bolz-Weber. Exposing the ELCA has exposed Bolz-Weber's teaching in detail (scroll down page here) and in a recent interview we hear more of her heretical thoughts concerning Scripture.

At the 16 minute mark of Nadia Bolz-Weber's profanity-laced interview she says, “I had this weird realization about Paul, the apostle Paul . . . There's stuff in Paul's letters that is like so incredibly beautiful its like you almost tear up reading it, right? At where you're like that is the Gospel. Like when he is good he is unbeatable, right? When he is bad he is wretched. Right? So in Paul's letters its like at one point he is just going off about his opinions about on how you should do church and what this person should do and don't do that and this isn't okay and blah blah blah and then he speaks theologically and it's like beautiful, right? . . . there's a difference in me in what I say as a speaker and what I say as a preacher.”

Bolz-Weber goes on to describe that when she is speaking to people, she has some authority to speak on the topics but a lot of what she says are her own “snotty opinions.” According to Bolz-Weber, preaching is different.

“. . . Preaching hopefully in some way is the word of God, speaking is not. So I thought, I wonder, we can look at Paul that way. You know like sometimes he was just going off on his snotty opinions, he has some authority to speak on it but that’s not necessarily the Word of God.” (listen here)

You read that right, Nadia Bolz-Weber believes that the parts of the Bible she likes are the “Word of God.” However, the parts of Scripture that she doesn't like are not the “Word of God” but rather they are just the author's snotty opinions.

Bolz-Weber is dangerously wrong. ALL of Scripture is God's Word! Paul, the man who wrote 13 books of the New Testament, says this about the Bible -

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:16-17)

Paul writes, all Scripture is God-breathed, but ELCA superstar Nadia Bolz-Weber disagrees. She even believes that her preaching is more of the Word of God than the segments of the Bible she doesn't like.

Why are some of you staying in the ELCA when such heresy is lifted up?


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Nate link
5/16/2014 09:10:08 am

And this is yet another example of why Paul felt it necessary to tell the Corinthian Christians, 'As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.'

Far too many 'churches' have dismissed this statement and have allowed women 'pastors', and in every case I've come across, once they get a woman 'pastor', the first thing that gets thrown out the window is fidelity to Scripture.

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Gretchen Long
5/20/2014 03:01:03 am

Hi, I am a lcms Lutheran , and as a woman I think your comment is pretty ignorant. I prefer male pastors , because that is what I have always had in the lcms, but not all women are like Nadia Weber Boltz, and not all women ministers would be like her. How about instead of blaming it on the fact that shes a woman ,blame it on the fact that shes an idiot.

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Charles H Hyneman
5/18/2014 08:16:29 am

She may have some gifts, but they are not intellect, wisdom, Spirituality or discernment. I just, like, don't know what they are. I do know why she is big in the ELCA.

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Didaskalos link
5/19/2014 06:21:53 am

It’s understandable that Nadia Bolz-Weber should haughtily diss the Apostle Paul. He regularly called out snake oil-peddling poseurs like the ones who populate today's ELCA seminaries and pulpits:

"I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create occasions of stumbling contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.” . . .

"But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies . . . and many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed.”

Bolz-Weber probably isn’t a fan of Peter, either. Not knowing what the warmed-over Gnostics in the ELCA have “discovered," Peter had the temerity to call Paul’s letters “Scripture”:

"There are some things in them [Paul's letters] that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability.”

Bolz-Weber and her fellow ELCA hucksters similarly won’t be warming up to Martin Luther anytime soon:

“It [the Gospel] teaches us everything — the nature of God, of ourselves, and what has been and is to be in regard to heaven, hell and earth, to angels and devils. It enables us to know how to conduct ourselves in relation to these — whence we are and whither we go. But, being deceived by the devil, we forsake the light of day and seek to find truth among philosophers and heathen totally ignorant of such matters. In permitting ourselves to be blinded by human doctrines, we return to the night. . . Paul says, ‘Neither present your members unto sin as instruments of unrighteousness’ (Rom. 6:13), meaning: Let not the works of darkness get such control of you as to render your members weapons of unrighteousness.” [Martin Luther, “First Sunday in Advent,” Sermons of Martin Luther, Vol. 5, Baker Books 1995, pp. 17, 19]

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Allen E Anderson link
5/19/2014 07:30:48 am

AMEN!!!!!

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Sandra Dusenbery
5/19/2014 02:22:18 pm

her comments make me so sad I could cry; she is scary as she leads people astray.

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Gregg Manchester
5/21/2014 12:55:25 pm

Also interesting was the discussion of her congregation's communion practice: "One of the central aspects of the House For All Saints is that open table, that everybody without exception is invited to receive the bread and wine at the communion table" (interviewer at the 41 minute mark). Apparently she dismisses as another one of Paul's snotty personal opinions his warnings in I Corinthians 11:20-22; 27-31.

"When you meet together, it is not the Lord's Supper that you eat. For in eating, each one goes ahead with his own meal, and one is hungry and another is drunk. What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in?"

"Whoever, therefore eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself. That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died. But if we judged ourselves truly, we should not be judged."

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Dave from Minnesota
5/24/2014 02:16:53 pm

She is like left wing secular politicians. They like to say things like "our thoughts and prayers are with you". Or "May God watch over you". Something kind of poetic. But they hate actual theology. Christians words and phrases that have more deeper Biblical meaning. Nadia like the poetic feel good words, but hates true Christian theology.

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Gregg Manchester
5/26/2014 09:28:18 am

"In my letter I wrote that you must have nothing to do with loose livers. I was not, of course, referring to pagans who lead loose lives or are grabbers and swindlers or idolaters. To avoid them you would have to get right out of the world. I now write that you must have nothing to do with any so-called Christian who leads a loose life, or is grasping, or idolatrous, a slanderer, a drunkard, or a swindler. You should not even eat with any such person. What business of mine is it to judge outsiders? God is their judge. You are judges within the fellowship. Root out the evil-doer from your community." (I Corinthians 5:9-13, New English Bible)

"All those who do not have true faith must not presume at all to come to the Holy Table, pretending and falsely testifying to be members of the body of Jesus Christ to which they do not belong. Such are: all idolaters who worship and serve other than the one God; all perjurers; the slothful who serve no purpose and are of no account, though they could be; all who are disobedient to their father and mother and to those whom God has purposely appointed to rule over us without contravening His authority; all ruffians, quarrelsome persons who unjustly beat and smite their neighbors, whom they hate; all lechers; the intemperate who live dissolutely in their eating and drinking; all thieves who work damage and injury upon their neighbors; all false witnesses and perpetrators of crimes; and all those who live wickedly and contrary to the holy commandments of God, who do not intend to obey His holy law nor live according to His Word by following the holy Gospel, like true children of God. Let them not presume to approach this Holy Table, to which only those are to come who really belong to the body of Christ, united and rooted in Him by true and living faith which works through love. For it shall be to their judgment and condemnation if they come here; and they shall be rejected as traitors and the sucessors of Judas." (John Calvin, "The Form of Church Prayers," in LITURGIES OF THE WESTERN CHURCH, ed. Bard Thompson [Fontana Books, 1961], pp. 220-221.)

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Pete
6/9/2014 09:11:48 am

At the 48 minute mark she says, "After the Easter Vigil we have a dance party and there's usually beer there" [at the church].

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Gregg Manchester
6/9/2014 12:49:29 pm

One of Bolz-Weber's interviewers smuggled in a half-truth: that the "open table" is a Methodist tradition (44 minutes). It is true that "unlike many in the Reformed and Puritan traditions, Wesley did not require whole faith for Communion. He taught, indeed he knew by experience, that the sacrament was a converting ordinance, meant also for 'the honest seeker,' who, though not yet possessed of justifying faith, was already responsive to the Gospel." (LITURGIES OF THE WESTERN CHURCH, p. 413.) But Wesley's own service contains the following exhortation:

"Ye that do truly and earnestly repent of your sins, and are in love and charity with your neighbours, and intend to lead a new life, following the commandments of God, and walking from henceforth in his holy ways; Draw near with faith, and take this holy Sacrament to your comfort; and make your humble confession to Almighty God, meekly kneeling upon your knees." (John Wesley, "The Sunday Service of the Methodists in North America" [1784], LITURGIES OF THE WESTERN CHURCH, p. 427.) This exhortation is retained in THE METHODIST HYMNAL of 1966.

That's a far cry from "everybody without exception is invited to receive the bread and wine at the communion table."

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Pete
6/12/2014 02:44:13 am

At 33 minutes she says, "A lot of times the absolution at House is 'God, who is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love, loves you AS YOU ARE. As a called and ordained minister of the Church of Christ, and by his authority, I declare to you the entire forgiveness of all your sins.' " The words "God...loves you as you are" do not appear in any service books that I have. Whether these words are Bolz-Weber's invention or they actually occur in some service book, they constitute a confusing explanation. God loves US; he does not love our sin. Why should I make a confession and condemn some aspect of my self if God loves it? Why would God want to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (1 Jn 1:9) if he loves our unrighteousness? It would be clearer to say, "God loves you in spite of your sin."

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George B.
6/16/2014 06:14:24 am

She makes up her own liturgies to suit her own agenda. See http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nadiabolzweber/2012/01/liturgical-naming-rite-for-a-transgendered-church-member

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George B.
6/18/2014 03:44:08 am

"God loves you as you are" sounds strange, coming from someone who encourages people to change their gender.

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tom muse
6/25/2014 02:30:48 pm

NADIA GOT A GOOD THING GOING FOR HER SHE,S GOT EVERYONE'S ATTENTION !
WELL AT LEAST THOSES THAT WANT THERE TOES TICKLED.
GOD'S GRACE IS SO SO BIG, THAT HE SAID "HE WOULD NEVER LEAVE US" RIGHT! WELL, THIS WAS FOR US ON THIS SIDE OF THE DURT. THEN VERY CLEARLY STATED, "THEN COMES THE JUDGMENT"! AND TO FEAR THOSE THAT TEACH AND SET YOU UP FOR TWO DEATHS, THAT'S RIGHT TWO DEATHS! THOSE WHO SEEK THE REAL TRUTH WILL ONLY SUFFER ONE " AND WE SHALL FOREVER BE WITH HIM'. I PRAY THE THE HOLYSPIRIT REVILE HIMSELF TO ALL WHO WOULD BELIEVE THAT GRACE DOES'T HAVE A PRICE . ONE,TO SEEK HIM WITH ALL OUR STENGTH, TWO, OUR MIND AND, THREE,OUR SOUL , THAT WILL TAKE US INTO THE HOLY OF HOLYS TOUCHED PHYICALY AND SPIRITUALLY! WAKE UP YOU SLUGGERS QUIT BEING SLOUTHFUL. " BLESSED ARE THEY TATH HUNGER AND THURST AFTER HIS RIGHTIOUSNESS FOR THEY SHELL BE FILLED". PAUL WRITES IN R:8 OUR SPIRIT BARES WITTNESS WITH HIS(CHRIST) THAT WE BECOME HIS CHILD AND JOINT HEIRS WITH CHRIST MAY GOD BLESS YOU WITH INLIGHTENMENT YOU WILL ALWAYS BE IN MY PRAYERS

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R. Morley
7/5/2014 07:32:44 am

The "second death" is damnation (Rev. 20:6,14; 21:8). Writers might also want to know that the comment box has a spelling checker: a wavelike line will appear beneath misspelled words. But it won't help when a wrong WORD is spelled correctly, such as "revile" instead of "reveal," "shell" instead of "shall," "bare" instead of "bear," etc.

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