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ELCA Trying to Stop U.S. Military Aid to Israel

10/9/2012

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It comes as a surprise to many when anti-Semitism is propagated by people and denominations operating under the banner of Christianity.  The latest incident comes from a letter sent to the United States Congress by the head of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA), Mark S. Hanson, and his liberal church cohorts telling the Congress to investigate Israel and consider halting military aid to them.

That letter was broadcast far and wide by the ELCA News Service, with the subtitle “ELCA, other churches call for investigation of military aid to Israel.”  So make no mistake, this is a call by the ELCA, not just the act of the presiding bishop.

The letter has its foundation in anti-Semitism.  One way this is apparent is when one considers that the US government gives military and/or financial aid to many countries which are, in fact, ruthlessly oppressive and violent.  There are Muslim countries that brutalize Christian citizens, women, non-Muslims and homosexuals.  Countries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Libya and Lebanon to name a few.  Yet, where is the letter asking for an investigation into military aid or financial aid to these countries?  Countries which HATE America.  Countries which keep “Palestinians” in slums.  Countries and governments which will kill you for having a Bible.  The silence from the ELCA concerning these countries is deafening.  

The constant call for Israel to give in to the demands of Muslims makes the their motivation obvious.  That call is the call of Hamas. It is the call of the Muslim Brotherhood.  It is the call of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.
 
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I have decide not to link to the bishop’s propaganda piece.  If someone really wants to read it, a simple and quick Google search will be able to produce it.  For more information on the ELCA’s positions and actions against Israel see here.


6 Comments
Chuck Braun
10/10/2012 06:54:10 am

While I don't subscribe to pre-Tribulation Millennial Dispensation, and believe the Church is the new spiritual Israel, nonetheless the modern-day state of Israel is a democracy that protects the Jewish people. Were the US to stop defending Israel, Iran could annihilate them and cause a second Holocaust! Furthermore, the end of national Israel would end up in the desecration of all sites in the Holy Land sacred to Christians, and end all possible Gospel witness to Israeli Jews and Muslims!
The United States should in no way aid any Islamic nation. To do so will only serve to persecute both Christians and Jews. If current trends in the Middle East continue, we may soon see an Islamic empire arise.
My wife and I are leaving the ELCA for the LCMS. In my belief, ELCA stands for Ex-Lutheran Cult of Antichrist. I pray for my dear Christian brothers and sisters who remain in that body, that they may run from it! And I pray for the church leaders to repent, if they are not already reprobate... Higgins Road is the Death Star, and Emperor Hanson and his minions have gone to the dark side...

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Jeff Davidman
11/5/2012 12:06:39 pm

"Christ is our Aaron and high priest, and we should let him alone rule. But ... [the] bishops will not allow that. They have established themselves and wish to take the reins of government by force, having set themselves against Christ.... [T]he people imagine that these idle fellows are the best part, the jewels of Christendom; while they are mere shame-spots and an abomination.... They feed the sheep not, but are wolves who devour the sheep. They are the 'clouds' floating above in the air, they sit high in the church, as those who should preach, and yet they do not preach, but permit Satan to carry them hither and thither.... They are 'wandering stars,' planets as they are called, that go backward and not in a steady, straight course. So these bishops have no regular course, their lives and teachings are mere error, in which they are misled and they mislead all who follow them. Therefore 'the blackness of darkness' has been reserved for them forever.'" (Martin Luther, COMMENTARY ON PETER & JUDE [Grand Rapids, Mich.: Kregel Publications, 1990], pp.296-297).

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Dave from Minnesota
10/10/2012 12:08:57 pm

I don't have a big problem if a church whose basis is extreme, takes extreme positions (think Unitarians). The members of those churches know what is going on and suppport it. But I wonder how many folks sitting in the pews of that rural ECLA church, the same church that their family has been going to since 1910, know that when they drop money in the collection plate, that some of that money goes to support anti-Semitic causes.

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John
10/11/2012 05:59:45 am

That money dropped in the collection plate also goes to pay for abortion. I wonder how many rural ELCA members know that fact?

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Judy
11/3/2012 11:37:49 pm

@John - my thought exactly. When I first read about this letter I thought, we can't take a public stand against abortion but we can write to Congress about this? I'm afraid the time has come to leave the ELCA.

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Brian Edwards
11/19/2012 12:09:18 pm

Here's a sampling of what the Koran says about the Jews:

"...some of those to whom the Scriptures were given threw the Book of God behind their backs as if they knew it not: and they followed what the Satans read in the reign of Solomon: not that Solomon was unbelieving, but the Satans were unbelieving. Sorcery did they teach to men..." (Sura 2:95-96).

"...if the people of the Book had believed, it had surely been better for them.... Shame shall be stamped upon them wherever found.... And the wrath of God will they incur, and poverty shall be stamped upon them! This--for that they believed not in the signs of God, and slew the prophets unjustly: This--because they rebelled, and became transgressors." (Sura 3:106, 108).

"We gave of old the Scriptures and wisdom to the line of Abraham, and we gave them a grand kingdom: --Some of them believe on the prophet [Mohammad] and some turn from him: --the flame of Hell is their sufficing punishment! Those who disbelieve our signs we will in the end cast into the fire: so oft as their skins shall be well burnt, we will change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the torment. Verily God is Mighty, Wise!" (Sura 4:57-59).

"O people of the Book! do ye not disavow us only because ... most of you are doers of ill? Say: Can I announce to you any retribution worse that that which awaiteth them with God? They whom God hath cursed and with whom He hath been angry--some of them hath He changed into apes and swine; and they who worship Thagout are in evil plight, and have gone far astray from the right path." (Sura 5:64-65).

"Of all men thou wilt certainly find the Jews, and those who join other gods with God, to be the most intense in hatered of those who believe...." (Sura 5:85).

"Say: O ye Jews, if ye profess that ye rather than other men are the friends of God, then wish for death if ye are men of truth." (Sura 62:6).

"But the unbelievers among the people of the Book, and among the Polytheists, shall to into the fire of Gehenna to abide therein for aye. Of all creatures are they the worst!" (Sura 98:5; Rodwell translation & verse numbering).

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