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ELCA Temper Tantrums Toward Pro-Life Persons

5/20/2016

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The following personal account and exchange comes from the comment section of this article about abortion and the church and took place in 2009.
 
One persons writes:

“I am the wife side of Lutheran Lurker, or should I say ex Lutheran Lurker.  My husband walked away from 22 years of parish ministry, into the darkness of a recession, over life issues.  We were ELCA in a very liberal congregation.  It was clear to us that any, and I mean any however subtle, hint of pro-life leanings was met with temper tantrums and aggressive action.  I felt that my head was going to explode.  I have bitten my tongue so often it is almost off.  A few years ago, I purchased a Feminists for Life bumper sticker for my truck.  I was afraid to put them on, knowing the consequences.  That sticker sat in the drawer for two full years haunting, or perhaps better stated, convicting me.  Eventually, it went on and Hell did break out.  Anyone who tells you these mainline churches are tolerant is fooling themselves.  They are militantly pro-choice with a handful of pro-life people afraid to come out of the closet on the issue because most of the other church choices involve the word Catholic or evangelical.

He is still job hunting, any leads would be appreciated.  We crossed the Tiber where the air is cleaner and the grass is greener.  As a wise mother of a young man with developmental disabilities in our special service said, “no regrets, except for the timing.””

Someone replies:
 
“Lutheran Lurker, my heart goes out to you and your husband for making this difficult and courageous stand. In the 80s, I was a member of an LCA church that then became an ELCA church. When I asked my pastor for a reference because I was applying to become a volunteer at a crisis pregnancy center, he got very angry and told me off. He then went into a long tirade about the importance of allowing abortion in all kinds of situations, giving half a dozen or more examples from his years counseling parishioners who chose abortion with his blessing. He initially refused to give the reference, saying crisis pregnancy centers were very harmful organizations who hurt women badly. He then reluctantly gave it. Learning his response, I didn’t have the courage to bring up the abortion issue with anyone else in the congregation. And it wasn’t long before I moved on to another church. Your experience is so very sad. I hope your husband is able to find a job soon.
 
This reminds me of the story of Richard John Neuhaus, the Lutheran pastor who was a liberal civil rights activist changed forever by Roe v. Wade, and who left the Lutherans to become a Catholic. Most likely you know way more about him than I do.”
 


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Anonymous Disciple of Christ
5/20/2016 02:18:52 pm

I hope you will do an investigation and report for your readers and the wider group of ignorant Christians sitting in the pews and tithing regularly (or sending that end of the year tax write off check to the ELCA congregation + ELCA pastor) just what is afoot in the ELCA.

There is a movement attempting to gain recognition known as DecolonizeLutheranism. I won't share my views here, until a proper article is written for this site. Dan, please read what can be considered a manifesto of sorts, the stated beliefs of DecolonizeLutheranism.

http://decolonizelutheranism.org/our-beliefs/

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Didaskalos link
5/21/2016 07:00:30 am

Planned Parenthood, far and away the nation's largest abortionist (committing over 30% of U.S. abortions annually), is infamous for taking no unborn prisoners, for its diabolical insistence that there be no constraints on abortion at any time, for any reason.

For several decades, the ELCA has been insistent on matching Planned Parenthood's ruthless, godless war on God's preborn creations.

** Its self-funded health plan pays for any abortion, no questions asked, up to 20 weeks: http://www.exposingtheelca.com/uploads/2/4/2/8/2428588/the_elca_abortion_policy1.pdf

** Its rock-star celebrity pastrix, Nadia Bolz-Weber, proudly contributes to Planned Parenthood, cynically applying the rubric "women's health" to her blood-money donation: http://www.nadiabolz-weber.com/home/nadia-bolz-weber-supports-planned-parenthood

In a denomination that regularly excises passages of the Bible that condemn its favorite sins, the ELCA has also expunged verses in Psalm 139 and Proverbs 24 that expose its soullessness.

Psalm 139: "13 For you formed my inward parts;
you knitted me together in my mother's womb.
14 I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
Wonderful are your works;
my soul knows it very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you,
when I was being made in secret,
intricately woven in the depths of the earth."

Proverbs 24: "11 Rescue those who are being taken away to death;
hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter.
12 If you say, “Behold, we did not know this,”
does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?
Does not he who keeps watch over your soul know it,
and will he not repay man according to his work?"

While the ELCA piously preaches "peace and justice," its real motto has effectively become "Moloch's work. Our bloody hands."

"When we have left in tatters the tents God wove for Himself, how shall He dwell among us?" ["Attacking the Tabernacle" -- http://www.firstthings.com/article/1999/11/attacking-the-tabernacle ]



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allen e anderson link
5/24/2016 06:03:20 pm

well abortion is one reason why I have basically left the elca and joined a lcmc church where I know that most people and pastors are pro-life pro-family and there is no church hierarchy too have to answer too.

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John
5/24/2016 09:45:27 pm

Allen,
That's what I thought seven years ago when I left the ELCA and joined an LCMC congregation. But now, the leadership there has decided it would be divisive to take any kind of moral stand on anything. They have friends/family/coworkers/whatever who are nice people so who are we to preach about right and wrong, let's just hug everybody. Against its own bylaws, our LCMC congregation actually practiced radical hospitality, i.e., inviting everyone to the communion table regardless of faith. It became all too clear that the non-believers they were bending over backwards to make welcome, were none other than themselves.
I'm glad I looked under the hood. I have taught my children too, how to find a faithful congregation. All the best to you.

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