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ELCA Pastor Says Homosexual Couple Reunited in Heaven

1/13/2016

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(The following article was written by Rev. Tom Brock of pastorsstudy.org.  You can follow Pastor Brock on Facebook - here and twitter - here.)

If you Google "Resurrection Lutheran Church Chicago" you will find a very, very pro-homosexual ELCA congregation.
 
Pastor Brian Hiortdahl wrote this about a homosexual member who died:
 
"Frank recounted his heartbreak for Richard, his beloved partner, as he watched him die slowly of AIDS. Today Frank and Richard are reunited in God's embrace. But before he died, Frank left us two remarkable gifts." (see here)
 
The pastor then goes on to say Frank left the church a generous bequest of money.
 
Reunited in heaven? The Bible teaches that those who persist in impenitent sin will not be saved, including the sin of homosexual behavior (I Corinthians 6:9-11). How tragic that a pastor would tell people that they can live in impenitent sin and go to heaven. I am sure, however, that this pastor would not say homosexual behavior is a sin. That is what happens when people refuse to submit to the authority of Scripture. They make things up as they go.
 
In Jesus our Savior,
 
Pastor Tom Brock
Pastorsstudy.org


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Anonymous Disciple of Christ
1/14/2016 12:13:44 pm

This article has hit a nerve. Shocking are the comments from the ELCA Clergy private facebook page. Look at the comments toward the bottom (in reference to this Exposing the ELCA blogpost)-

The idea of Heaven being populated by queers singing Broadway in a chorus line is touted by one member. Then it is supported as a PROPHETIC WORD.

These are ostensibly clergy members who think like this!

Heaven is not populated by angels and saints singing praises to God Almighty....
no, Heaven is populated by queers dancing in a chorus link, singing Broadway showtunes.



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Dan Skogen
1/14/2016 12:49:52 pm

The link Anonymous Disciple of Christ provided is, what I assume, a screenshot of what some of the people on the ELCA Clergy private facebook page are saying about this blog and Pastor Tom Brock.

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A.D.o.C.
1/14/2016 12:55:01 pm

apologies, this should work

http://tinypic.com/r/160tzsg/9

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Don
1/15/2016 07:21:12 am

Evidently ELCA pastors reject the general idea that sinners in heaven will have been cleansed from their unrighteousness (1 John 1:9), and promote the idea that lechers will eternally revel in their perversion. That sounds to me more like hell.

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Anonymous Disciple of Christ
1/14/2016 12:17:34 pm

We anxiously await your take on LTSP and LTSG announcement yesterday, that both seminaries will shutter in 2017, and one new seminary will emerge, with two campuses.

Would love to hear your take on this (sarcasm on) 'Bold new initiative by the ELCA' /


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Didaskalos link
1/14/2016 08:13:41 pm

Once again, the Bible and Martin Luther shoot mammoth holes in the Ersatz Lutheran Church in America's favorite world-pleasing apostasy:

". . . 9. Nor may we in our works and in our daily life tolerate the yielding to the wantonness of the flesh and at the same boast the Gospel of Christ, as did the Corinthians, who stirred up among themselves divisions and disorder, even to the extent of one marrying his stepmother. In such matters as these, Paul says, a little leaven leavens and ruins the whole lump - the entire Christian life. These two things are not consistent with each other: to hold to the Christian faith and to live after the wantonness of the flesh, in sins and vices condemned by the conscience. Paul elsewhere warns (I Cor 6, 9-10): ”Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” Again (Gal 5, 19-21): ”The works of the flesh are manifest . . . of which I forewarn you, even as I did forewarn you, that they who practice such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”

10. Warrant is given here likewise for censuring and restraining the rash individuals who assert that men should not be terrified by the Law, nor surrendered to Satan. No! it is our duty to teach men to purge out the old leaven; we must tell them they are not Christians, but devoid of the faith, when they yield to the wantonness of the flesh and wilfully persevere in sin against the warning of conscience. We should teach that such sins are so much the more vicious and damnable when practiced under the name of the Gospel, under cover of Christian liberty; for that is despising and blaspheming the name of Christ and the Gospel: and therefore such conduct must be positively renounced and purged out, as irreconcilable with faith and a good conscience."

[ http://www.lutherdansk.dk/Web-sommerpostillen%20AM/Kirkepos.htm -- pts. 9-10]

", , ,the heinous conduct of the people of Sodom ” as “extraordinary, inasmuch as they departed from the natural passion and longing of the male for the female, which is implanted into nature by God, and desired what is altogether contrary to nature. Whence comes this perversity? Undoubtedly from Satan, who after people have once turned away from the fear of God, so powerfully suppresses nature that he blots out the natural desire and stirs up a desire that is contrary to nature." (Luther’s Works, Vol. 3, 255)

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Chuck Braun
1/25/2016 06:53:29 am

I left the ELCA for its acceptance of same-sex activity as good and proper, rather than the serious sin which it is.

In my own assessment of the nature of homosexuality, I see same-sex activity which is chosen (pederasty, sodomy in prisons) and that which is not chosen, due to what I believe is an incurable mental illness that is a result of the Fall.

And I thank God for Pastor Brock, that He has given him the power to abstain from that sin which Satan, through a damaged-by-the-Fall biology, has tempted him to do. But by the same token, I pray that Jesus would forgive the sins which some who believe in Him are unable to repent from, hard as they try. I realize that in my own life, I have sometimes had thoughts which I thought were morally right, when in fact they were wrong.

Please don't think I'm trying to make an excuse for homosexuals, that it's okay what they're doing. I'm just hoping that the grace of Jesus Christ would forgive sins that don't seem like sins. I'm not suggesting in the least that one should play dice with one's eternal salvation. I'm just hoping that Jesus would be pleading before the Father, "Forgive them, Lord, they cannot help what they do!"

So, while I am saddened that these two men died in unrepentant mortal sin, and may very well be seeing eternal punishment rather than life, I hope that they were still be saved in spite of their sin, or that they repented before they died. But that's for God alone to know.

Two final notes: On a documentary about the United Methodist Church, one young gay man lamented over thinking himself to be unredeemable from his Baptist upbringing. Indeed, this was the Law crushing him, If only his pastors would request him to avail himself of Confession and Absolution, followed by a life of attempting to repent, he could still be saved by the Gospel.

This brings up the following: Those church leaders who blessed same-sex relationships are guilty of leading precious sheep of the Good Shepherd away from the flock. And as leaders, they will face the stricter judgment on the Day of the Lord. So if the gay men were not forgiven and are indeed experiencing God's wrath, how much worse will the punishment be for these men's pastors, who failed to warn them about the gravity of their sins?

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