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ELCA Leaders Worship Muslim God

1/10/2013

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ELCA leaders worship the god of Muslims.  At least that is the logical conclusion most would come to when they look into what ELCA leaders are saying.

The magazine of The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, The Lutheran, ran an article in the January 2013 issue about Muslims.  The article was another attempt by ELCA leadership to indoctrinate its members into believing a heretical, blasphemous idea.  The article included an argument supporting the claim that the God we Christians worship is the same god Muslims worship.  Liberal heretics have been saying this for awhile now, and we will address this lie shortly, but lets first look at what The Lutheran had to say.

The magazine presented this statement to two ELCA experts: “Some people say 'Allah' is the name of a pagan moon god and isn't the same as the 'God' of the Bible.”

David D. Grafton, ELCA missionary serving as the coordinator for graduate studies at the Evangelical Theological Seminary in Cairo, Egypt replied:  “This is a very old claim.  It's similar to an old Christian argument about the 'God of the Old Testament' being distinct from the 'God of the New.' That, of course, was declared a heresy long ago.”

Michael Shelley, dean and vice president for academic affairs at the ELCA's Lutheran School of Theology at Chicago, answered by saying that “Allah” was one of many gods in Arabia, before the Koran was written, and was considered “the creator.”  Prof. Shelley then says, “Are Allah and the God of the Bible the same?  Certainly the Quran contends they are.  It says to Jews and Christians, 'Our God and your God is one' (Quran 29:46) . . . we are likely to have a more constructive conversation with our Muslim neighbors if we proceed on the assumption that we are talking about the same divine being.” (see here)

So The Lutheran tells its readers that we worship the same god as the Muslims.  The ELCA's Presiding Bishop Mark Hanson has said the same thing in a letter to Muslims saying “(t)he one God whom we worship is a God not only of judgment, but of mercy and peace." (see here)

There are a number of reasons the ELCA does this.  One reason, I believe, is because of the ELCA's acceptance of universal salvation, that all people will go to heaven no matter what they believe, who they worship or if they've placed their faith in Christ.  The ELCA has walked away from leading people to a saving relationship with Christ which makes “working together” with “all people” the focus of why the ELCA exists.

Now there are a number of reasons we can say with confidence that the God of the Bible and the Muslim god are not the same god.   I will give you three:

  1. Muslims claim the teachings of their most holy book, the Koran, came from an angel.  The Koran denies Jesus is the son of God.  In Galatians 1 it indicates that gospels other than the gospel of the Bible are not from (our) God even if “an angel from heaven” preaches it.

  2. The Bible and the Koran contradict each other on major theological issues.  If they were the same god there would not be these huge contradictions.

  3. The Bible and the Koran also portray very different and contradictory attributes of God.  This again is a strong evidence that they are not the same God. (see here)

The ELCA's thinking and teaching is evil, and it blasphemes God. It is a teaching that comes from the pit of hell.  I don't know how much longer God will allow the ELCA to mock Him.

If you haven't read my blog “The ELCA is No Longer a Christian Denomination” you should.  It could just as easily been titled “The God of the Bible and the God of the ELCA are not the same.”

5 Comments
Kathy Suarez link
1/11/2013 02:37:43 am

Sad, but true. Notice that the Mormon religion was also delivered by an "angel." The main thrust of Islam is that Jesus is not divine. Islam was a reaction against Christianity. Hard to believe that the same god would be on opposite sides of the central doctrine of Christianity.

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Didaskalos link
1/11/2013 10:51:43 pm

Bishop Hanson has said the ELCA is "always being made new."

At long last, a statement by the bishop with which I can agree. Thanks to Hanson and his fellow Visigoths, the ELCA has indeed been made new: a new “Jesus” created in their own image, a new "Bible" with those odious passages about sin expunged, and a new “Great Command”: “Go into all the world and preach environmentalism, syncretistic universalism, antinomianism, and progressivism.”

Oh yes, and a new hymn (written by Joe Long) befitting the transmogrified ELCA:

NON-CONFRONTATIONAL HYMN OF THE REPUBLIC

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of Godself
Emanating from penumbras there wherein the Gosdelf dwellth;
S/he is sending forth suggestions we should socialize the wealth -
Godself is marching on!

Refrain:

She, he, it, they, you and meeeee!
She, he, it, they, you and meeeee!
She, he, it, they, you and meeeee!
Godself is all of us!

I have seen Godself's reflection in Mohammed's Thousand Names,
And the Buddhist and the Hindu Godselves really are the same,
So don't try to be Godselfish, and put down your old King James -
Godself is marching on!


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Kathy Suarez
1/12/2013 02:30:09 am

I cannot see the future. I can only speculate. I think it is possible, given what we see now, that within a few years, the ELCA -- to keep itself from collapsing -- will become part of the Emergent Church. This body, in turn, will become part of a new global religion, a One-World Religion. Already we can see this developing.

This, I believe, would be very serious, because as any student of history knows, this large group of simple-minded believers would be ripe for a powerful leader to unite and control them. I sincerely pray that I am totally mistaken here.

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Chuck Braun
1/14/2013 05:01:57 am

Imagine no more Bishops
It's easy if you try...
Bring back the word "salvation"
And squash the Devil's lies...
Imagine all the people
Living for Jesus Christ...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But there's more than me, you see...
I hope you'll come and join us
And you'll be ELCA-free...

Return to the Confessions,
It isn't hard to do.
Reject the poisoned gospel,
And false religions too...
Imagine all the people
Living for the Lord...
You may say I'm a dreamer,
But the Lord will come somday...
Will He find faith on earth,
How answer ye, ELCA?

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William Hard
11/19/2015 02:08:48 pm

I would like to read some current articles on this subject. I fear most ELCA people are in denial over the purposed evil of Islam. My goal is to expose the lies of Islam and help others know the truth in Scripture and the confessions.

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