The ELCA "Queerness of Christ"

ELCA Leaders on ‘The Queerness of Christ’ and God Making People Gay

7/11/2016

Clint Schnekloth, a well-known ELCA pastor, author, writer, speaker and administrator of a couple ELCA Facebook pages wrote a blog this March titled “Queering Christianity” where he writes, “Because the truth is, I don't think being queer is a sin. I think your orientation and gender identity is part of who you are, created in the image of God, and God says of God's creation, this is very good.”

And, “This is to say, we don't just tolerate queer people in our community. Nor do we live as progressive Christians and fully welcome them. No, we are being transformed by the virtues they share with us. Our Christianity is queer…it is traditional Christianity that has been conformed to the binary, oppressive understandings of sexuality, race, and many other things, and needs to be transformed by the queerness of Christ.” (see here)

On Twitter, ELCA pastor Schnekloth writes,

Authentic Christianity is and must be queer. https://t.co/Wcc2oH7cnO #queerlivesmatter #LGBTQ #progressivechristian
— Clint Schnekloth (@Schnekloth) March 7, 2016

With all the craziness happening in our world, it should be no surprise that “Christian” denominations, like the ELCA, have leaders talking about the “queerness of Christ,” that True Christianity is ‘queer,’ that homosexuality is not a sin and that God makes people queer.

Then we have a recent letter by Bishop Rick Jaech of the ELCA’s Southwestern Washington Synod, saying,

“I have heard again and again from LGBTQ friends that their pain and shock comes not only from the 49 lives lost, but also from a sense of violation that the shooting occurred at a gay club. What they explained to me is that an LGBTQ club is the one place where they have felt safe and welcomed. Surrounded by LGBTQ friends, it is often the only place where they can be fully and openly themselves. Within the sanctuary of that place, they don’t have to hide from being who God made them to be, but can actually dance and celebrate their identity.” (see here)

God did not ‘make’ people gay. God did not form certain individuals to be attracted to the same-sex. A strong Biblical case can be made that God did NOT create or instill same-sex attraction into some people. And dwelling upon and engaging in same-sex behavior is sinful.

Read more about ELCA pastor Clint Schnekloth here.

Exposed Blog about Interim Dean and Associate Professor of Systematic Theology at the ELCA's Lutheran Theological Seminary at Gettysburg and her "Queer Jesus" blog. (see here)

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Didaskalos link

7/12/2016 09:30:54 am

James 1: 13 Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone. 14 But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. 15 Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.

Martin Luther: "It is the nature of all hypocrites and false prophets to create a conscience when there is none, and to cause conscience to disappear where it does exist."

"Just Christians: On Homosexuality & Christian Identity" -- S. M. Hutchens

". . .Such *were* some of you. The apostle is writing [in 1 Corinthians 6] to the baptized saints in the church of Corinth who are no longer these things. He does not say they are no longer susceptible to their old sins, nor that these old sins mustn't be dealt with: addressing the problems old sins create is a large part of the epistle's burden. Given this apostolic definition, however, we cannot—we dare not—say there is any such thing as a "gay (or lesbian, etc.) Christian," for the Christian by definition has been cleansed of his homosexuality. He cannot regard himself as a homosexual—or idolater, or thief, or drunkard—nor can the Church affirm him, or the various acts associated with the old vice, as such.

There is no "homosexual voice within the Church," for the homosexual's conversion entails a choice—This, or That—the sin, or the Faith. He cannot have both, nor can the Church in any way accommodate the sin from which he has been cleansed. It is wholly and actively and vehemently against it as a destroyer of the souls it has been called to save. It labors among the saints only in the accomplishment of what has already been done in Christ: cleansing, sanctification, and justification in the Name of the Lord. . .

. . . In that baptism we become penitents, and as such divided from our sins. St. Paul tells us here that no penitent is to be named by, identified by, what he has abjured. Those injured people who have put on Christ have put on, in him, life, hope, healing of their diseases, and resurrection of their bodies in the image and likeness of the one who has saved them.

The Church never can and never will give satisfaction—and the homosexualist knows it, for he knows the words against him are ineradicable—to the declared and impenitent homosexual, the person who, through an act of the vermiculate will, has identified his person with a sin, whether he demands acceptance of his sin through "love," or vindication through identification of his perceived enemies as bigots. Whether he presents himself as an object of love or indignation, what he demands in either case is acceptance not of the person, but of the sin-bound and sin-defined person. He demands the declaration of spiritual authority that there is nothing objectively disordered about this binding of man to sin, and assurance that this monstrous amalgam can indeed enter the kingdom of heaven. This can never happen among Christians until they abandon Christianity, which is at war with every sin, and whose indelible constitution places all perversions of the perfect man at the muzzle of its canons."

Read more: http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=26-04-003-e#ixzz4ECkN5UHz

Carl W Baggett Jr

7/13/2016 01:12:54 am

The sentence that is most indicative of Schnekloth's belief system is: "Because the truth is, I don't think being queer is a sin."

I don't think.

I don't think.

Not a mention of what God thinks in that sentence.

However, it surely clears up which god Schnekloth worships. His altar contains one element-a mirror.

Howard Frazier

7/13/2016 08:41:39 am

Rev. Clint Schnekloth has previously said, "God is gay," and "God is trans." If anyone is having trouble understanding what is going on in Rev. Schnekloth's mind, we can paraphrase his religious belief like this: "If you want to see God, look in the mirror." That is to say, Rev. Schnekloth doesn't actually believe in a real God. He thinks God is nothing more than a great thought invented by the human imagination; and therefore this "God" cannot be superior to or much different from the human mind which created him.

The philosophy I'm describing here isn't anything new. I believe author John Updike set out something similar in his short story, "Pigeon Feathers." (I'm relying on my memory here; I don't recall the fine details of Updike's dialogue.)

Stephen

7/25/2016 09:04:33 am

If a gay person can sit in church and feel comfortable, then the pastor is clearly not preaching the law and the gospel. The Lutheran Confessions teach that a primary use of the Law is to be made aware of one's own sinfulness. For many, this is a troubling realization and causes them great anguish. Good!! That's how you should feel. Then the 3rd use of the Law, as the articles of Concord describe, should give you inspiration you need to amend your evil ways. The anguish gay people are feeling when confronted by their own sinfulness comes out in many forms but if more churches existed that teach correct doctrine, they could help these individuals sort out these feelings BEFORE they devolve into violence and/or suicide, such as the case of the recent Orlando shooting.

Gil

7/27/2016 01:52:57 pm

Omar Mateen didn't go to church; he was a Muslim.

7/28/2016 02:51:35 pm

This whole business about Mateen being a self-loathing gay is just speculation on the part of the liberal media. It's a red herring designed to divert public attention away from the important fact of the case: that Omar Mateen was an Islamic jihadist.

See the blog, "ELCA Leaders Blame Christians in Wake of Orlando Tragedy" (6-22-2016) on this website.

Judy Canode

2/12/2017 01:06:08 am

I agree. God will not apo rt over of any homosexual behabior, enen long term gay relationships. It us very clear in God's word that ant homosexual behavior is wrong.

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