Interesting numbers related to the declining, dying Evangelical Lutheran Church in America -
9/23/2014 02:55:12 am
I noticed on the ELCA Fact page on the ELCA main website that they have membership and congregation numbers through the end of 2013. It looks like they lost over 100k members in 2013 and 78 churches.
9/24/2014 11:51:19 pm
First we were told the decisions of the CWA 2009 were for mission and ministry, and that new members would flock to the ELCA once we made it clear LGBTs were welcome and celebrated. With the advent of "gay marriage," and with Lutheran social service organizations placing children with gay couples to be adopted, one would expect the number of married couples with children in the ELCA to increase for that reason alone. It hasn't happened. Now we are being told that membership losses are due to bigoted people leaving the church and "We're better off without them!" They say the membership losses are the price to be paid for being "right" on this issue, and to those leaving, "Don't let the door hit you...." But where are the new GLBT members? Maybe they understand better than the church hierarchy that the Bible does not condone their lifestyle.
5/18/2015 01:58:42 am
except Lutherans (ELCA) don't take the Bible as the inerrant word of God so your attempt to "they know they're sinful" is absolute bullsh*t- like the rest of your arguments. Always amazes me how some Christians just don't trust God.
12/1/2014 06:44:15 pm
NO! Gay Christians like me stopped going to the ELCA because we DO actually believe in something that the ELCA doesn't really believe any longer - Christ is God made manifest and faith in Him, and Him alone is the way to eternal salvation. The problem for people like me is, we are caught between an out of control liberal "church" which essentially believes nothing, and an out of control right-wing group of "gay-bashers" who spend their time scapegoating us. I left the ELCA because too many of their clergy are rank unbelievers. But I certainly am not going to the "other side" where I am made the "scapegoat" for all the Church's ills while divorce and remarriage (serial polygamy) is hypocritically accepted even among their own flock. I can't even begin to count the number of the anti-gay clergy in the Lutheran church who are living in adultery because the spouse they have now is really not their own - its their second, third or fourth! And they certainly don't deny the Eucharist to those of their membership living in open sin when such are divorced and remarried as well. Thankfully, God judges me and not the hypocrites who claim to speak for him. So which hypocrite faction of the Lutheran church should I belong to? And who are you to judge? Put your own sin on the table for the rest of us to see while you bang on about homosexuals. Do you really think you "measure up." If you do, you have already denied the doctrine of justification by faith "SOLA."
4/23/2016 08:49:54 am
Kenneth, could not agree more.
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