Crude Dating Advice from an ELCA Pastor

2/24/2018

(Explicit Content Warning)

Vile, vulgar, salacious, perverted and crude are some of the words I would use to describe the dating advice commentary (view below) written by the Rev. Lura Groen. Her commentary seems to be inspired by all the sexual assault accounts that have been expressed lately in our society. It is a serious issue, but this Evangelical Lutheran Church in America pastor goes way beyond what is proper and godly, even discussing sexual acts that could take place in her dating advice scenario.

(See here on Pastor Groen's Facebook page)

What kind of Christian pastor would speak like this privately, let alone publicly? Be warned. This is the kind of pastors the ELCA is now producing and ordaining. The ELCA has taken a stand against the clear teaching of the Bible, the Holy Spirit inspired Word of God, and this is an example of what results.

Rev. Groen is not an anomaly or a renegade within the ELCA, if fact she has made a name for herself in the denomination. Six months ago, Pastor Groen sat on a public panel discussion with the presiding bishop of the ELCA. (see here) She also has many ELCA pastors, and people who work in ELCA synods, connected with her via social media.

Find out more about Rev. Groen by reading additional articles about her unchristian, outrageous thoughts and behavior here.

3 Comments

John

2/27/2018 11:15:57 pm

So even if Pr Groen means well -- and that's a big IF -- even if her main point is to discourage sexual assault, we have to ask if that end justifies her means. Is this the kind of person I would trust to advocate for my daughters? Someone who manages to paradigm a sexual encounter completely devoid of reproduction, passion, affection, commitment -- or even, on the negative side, regret or disappointment? It reads like a law school study group tried to write a column for the Playboy Advisor. Not for my daughters, thanks.

FYI: God invented sex. In Scripture, He tells us all about good sex -- marriage, passion, love, and often reproduction (see Song of Solomon for some great bedtime reading). He also tells us all about bad sex -- vice, adultery, rape, sodomy, prostitution, etc. All of it far more interesting and instructive than Pr Groen's post-modern paradigm. Whether she means well or not, she needs to brush up on some Scripture before giving out any more dating advice.

Didaskalos

2/28/2018 03:43:56 am

Old and New Testament types of ELCA poseur-pastors whose allegiance to sexually "liberated" feminism and the Christ-rejecting world has replaced any allegiance to God and His Word:

Proverbs 9
13 The woman of folly is boisterous,
She is simple and knows nothing.
14 She sits at the doorway of her house,
On a seat by the high places of the city,
15 Calling to those who pass by,
Who are making their paths straight:
16 “Whoever is simple, let him turn in here,”
And to him who lacks understanding she says,
17 “Stolen water is sweet;
And bread eaten in secret is pleasant.”
18 But he does not know that the dead are there,
That her guests are in the depths of Sheol.

Revelation 2:20
"But I [Jesus] have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who...is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality..."

Fran

6/25/2019 10:48:56 am

This makes me sick!! I feel like leaving the ELCA after reading the horrible things that pastors and leaders are teaching!!

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