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Condom Dispensing Pastor Preaches at Luther Seminary

12/5/2012

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Today, Luther Seminary posted on its facebook page that Pastor Andrena Ingram, a pastor known for giving out free condoms at her church, will be preaching at their chapel tomorrow.  Here is what the Luther Seminary post said, "This week is HIV/AIDS Awareness Week. The Rev. Andrena Ingram will preach in chapel tomorrow at 11 a.m. Chapel will be followed by a conversation at 11:45 a.m. in the OCC Lecture Room (lower level)."  (see here)

You should read the article Exposing the ELCA wrote about Pastor Ingram earlier this spring. (read)



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Didaskalos link
12/5/2012 09:56:47 pm

All you *really* need to know about the "Rev." Ingram: "Rev. Ingram also said, “'I am not going to get into the ‘religious right’ about having sexual relations. Of course I would hope that you are in a committed relationship, and even then, that both of you have been tested every six months for at least a year, before you trust yourselves with each other’s bodies without a condom.' " [ http://www.andrenaingram.org/activism-3/this-is-my-body-given-for-you/ ]

ELCA Libertines 'R' Us translation: "Kids and seminarians, you probably know that we in the ELCA have voted to put our denominational imprimatur on homosexual sex. We ELCAnites have long felt the Bible is seriously overdue for our modernizing touches, and we've been editing it as fast as we can crank out convention resolutions.

"But for reasons we can't theologically or even logically justify, we're still a little skittish about one-night stands between heterosexual pairings of consenting teens or adults. To be consistent with our sexual libertinism, though, it's gotta be a standard of 'come one, come all.' So if you're intent on fornicating, we certainly won't rain on your libidinous parade. However, we would like to see you in a 'committed' relationship. You know, hang in there for at least a few months before you move on to your next committed relationship.

"Now you homosexual and lesbian pastors-to-be are probably aware that to give our denomination a little better public PR, we've told you that you should be in 'lifelong' homosexual relationships before we'll install you in our pulpits. That means you should probably hang in there for at least a year or two before you move on to greener pastures. Chances are, your congregations won't throw you out at that point. You gave it the old ELCA/Luther Seminary try, after all."

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Kathy
12/7/2012 10:04:20 am

Didaskalos, that is the best thing I have read about this mess.

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Didaskalos link
12/8/2012 03:17:21 am

The ELCAnites truly are the direct spiritual descendants of the Ammonites and Moabites.

Not only does the ELCA proudly endorse sin, it also heartlessly enjoins sinners to stay enmeshed in lifelong sin. Unlike Paul's declaration of hope in 1 Corinthians 6 (" . . . and such WERE some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."), the ELCA proclaims no need for repentance and no hope of redemption as it blesses sinners in their sin.

Former ELCA pastor Tom Brock writes, "I have struggled with homosexual temptation most of my life. By the grace of God I have always been celibate but the struggle for me has been intense. Sadly, the battle was also with my own denomination. In my 22 years as a pastor in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America I spoke at church conventions for the Biblical standard of celibacy for those with same-sex attraction. Sadly, in 2009 the ELCA adopted a more liberal view and began ordaining practicing homosexuals. I have left the ELCA but I continue in my television ministry to uphold the truth that homosexual behavior is sin, and the fact that I struggle with this temptation does not give me license to practice the behavior.

"This summer I testified before a hearing at the convention of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) as they debated whether to change the definition of marriage to include homosexual couples. I explained that I am a person who struggles with same-sex attraction but the last thing I want to see is the Church endorse a behavior that hurts people in this life and which excludes them from the Kingdom in the next (I Corinthian 6:9-11).

"I stated: "Is it not arrogant to think that we are somehow more enlightened than all the Christians who came before us?" I believe it is safest to interpret Scripture the way Christians have understood it for 2,000 years and the solid testimony of church history is against homosexual behavior. The Biblical interpretation that has led some denominations astray – notably the ELCA, Presbyterian Church USA, the Episcopal Church in America, and the United Church of Christ – maintains that the Bible does not condemn homosexual behavior per se, but only promiscuous homosexual behavior. As much as part of me – my flesh – would like to believe I can legitimately engage in homosexual behavior, the Bible remains a permanent obstacle. An objective reading of Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, Deuteronomy 22:5, Romans 1:26-27, I Corinthians 6:9-11, I Timothy 1:8-10, Jude 6,7 makes clear that the Bible's condemnation of homosexual behavior is a blanket one. There is never the added caveat: But it is okay if you love each other.

"At the Presbyterian convention, one pastor testified that the denomination should allow her to marry lesbians in her congregation because "If I don't I will hurt them." I responded, "No, to encourage them to engage in a behavior which will rob them of salvation, that is what will hurt them."

"I was interviewed on Minneapolis radio about my struggle and the interviewer asked, "Pastor Brock, why don't you just go with this orientation as who you are." I responded, "I'm glad I didn't. I'd be dead. Many men my age who went into this lifestyle are dead." Some liberal Lutheran bishops I know believe they are being loving by affirming homosexual behavior. The truth is they are hurting people. As one old Lutheran pastor said, "They are nicing people right into hell." I can't tell you how grievous it was for me with my struggle to hear bishops endorse something that I knew was evil.

"So what does one do if one suffers from same-sex attraction? I believe the answer is: fight. Nowhere are we told the Christian life will be easy. I once heard someone say "But God would never ask you to deny something so central to your make-up as homosexuality." I thought, "Why not?" If we believe in the doctrine of original sin – that we are all born sinners because of Adam's fall (Romans 5) – then indeed every Christian is called to battle the sin that is so central to our make-up. One often hears "But I didn't choose this." I can relate. I never consciously asked to have these temptations. But most alcoholics do not wake up one morning and say "I think I'll have a drinking problem." Kleptomaniacs do not say "I think I'll have a problem with shoplifting." We may not choose our temptations in life, but we do choose what we do with our temptations. To be tempted is not sin. Jesus was tempted in Matthew 4. What we do with temptation shows whether we are endeavoring to follow Christ. And, praise God, even if we do fall under temptation, there is forgiveness when we repent and turn to Christ.

"What will help people who struggle with same-sex attraction? Of course, regular prayer, Bible reading and being in a good church, a church that has not compromised on this issue. But for most people struggling with same-sex attraction, the cruc

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Didaskalos link
12/8/2012 08:55:47 am

[continuation of Pastor Tom Brock's article in previous post] ". . .But for most people struggling with same-sex attraction, the crucial key is accountability. I have been part of a Christian support group for those who struggle with same-sex attraction. If you google "Exodus International" you will most likely find a group in your area where you can join other Christians who have this struggle. Also very important for me are the weekly phone calls I make to my accountability partner who helps keep me on the straight and narrow.

"Lastly, where does homosexuality come from? Is it nature (in the genes) or nurture (in one's upbringing)? I lean toward the latter but ultimately it does not matter. Wherever it comes from, we are called upon to follow Christ and say "no" to it. As our Lord Himself stated: "If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me" (Luke 9:23)."

Janet Muldoon
12/9/2012 06:07:59 am

1 Corinthians 6:16
New International Version (NIV)

16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”

So my question is this..... Why should any denomination be encouraging the sale of souls? Wake up those who support sinful behavior!! .... Can anyone imagine Jesus Christ handing out condoms in the temple? Sometimes I wonder what has happened to the brains of educated people. They present themselves as totally brainless.

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