The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America's Presiding Bishop Elizabeth Eaton, in a painfully pathetic response (that only Neville Chamberlain could appreciate) believes that talking and reasoning with ISIS is the way to stop the vile Muslim terrorist army from committing their evil atrocities and get them to lay down their arms.
The ELCA's leader was asked by a television interviewer: “Bishop Eaton, as you know you asked for a political solution in Syria. A political solution needs two parties and the two conflicted parties need to believe in a political solution. If one for example, ISIS, is killing people in Iraq, crucifying people . . . what political solution is possible between a political party and a party that uses killing as a tactic?”
Here is the heart of Presiding Bishop Eaton's answer:
“. . . It's not just two sides, there are many sides to all of this, and so just countering that with military force doesn't seem to be as effective as trying to get people together to have conversations together. And maybe we'll have to form unusual alliances. People who are not naturally considered to be allies. Maybe in the name of humanity and in the name of the hope that we have together in God say, we must put aside our differences, in order that, we can together come and reason with people who don't really want to have any sense of reason. But it is possible to have conversations. We use to be enemies with many people with whom now we are allies.” (see here beginning at the 26:30 min. mark)
9/3/2014 12:22:54 pm
Yes, we ARE allies with many nations that once were enemies; two that come to mind are Germany and Japan. Does Bishop Eaton really believe we could have had a "conversation" with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan in 1941? Sorry, but contrary to the insipid lawn signs that proclaim "War is Not the Answer," sometimes war IS the answer. ISIS is quite frankly on a par with Nazi Germany. It is the duty of good men (and nations) to eliminate it with impunity. As an ELCA member, I am constantly ashamed of the moral obtuseness shown by my own Church leadership.
9/4/2014 06:29:03 am
Elizabeth Eaton is clueless. When even the Catholic Church -- which has opposed military intervention in conflicts for at least 50 years -- says that a military solution is needed in Iraq, then I take heed and listen.
T D Barbee
9/4/2014 08:32:22 am
Perhaps she should be the one to moderate the conversation with ISIS. Let's see . . . . a Christian woman trying to lead a group of men opposed to her faith and oppressive to her gender.
9/4/2014 08:32:39 am
This position has a long Biblical history: God negotiated with the Egyptians at the Red Sea; Joshua reasoned with the residents of Jericho; David dialogued with the Philistines; and on the Last Day, the Lord and the Beast will offer a joint statement on mission and ministry.
9/4/2014 09:53:32 pm
Such a joint statement would be in the spirit of all-roads-lead-to-God bonhomie offered by the ELCA's previous Presiding Bishop: "The ELCA's Presiding Bishop Mark Hanson has said the same thing in a letter to Muslims saying “(t)he one God whom we worship is a God not only of judgment, but of mercy and peace." [ http://www.exposingtheelca.com/exposed-blog/elca-leaders-worship-muslim-god ]
9/18/2014 11:02:57 am
I recommend watching the short video "Top Ten Qur'an Verses for Understanding ISIS" at http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/david-wood/top-ten-quran-verses-for-understanding-isis/
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