A Sad Walk Through An ELCA Seminary
(I received this the other day. It's written by Pastor Tom Brock) -
Today I walked through my old alma mater, Luther Theological Seminary in St Paul, Mn. It is known as probably the most conservative of the ELCA seminaries. You wouldn’t know it from the number of gay/lesbian bumper stickers in the parking lot. Upon entering the main building a sign was up promoting a new book at Luther’s Bookstore, “Pastrix” by ELCA Pastor Nadia Bolz-Weber. She was a favorite speaker at the ELCA Youth Assembly and a few months ago spoke at the historic Central Lutheran Church in downtown Minneapolis—using the “f” word in her speech. I flipped through her new book and she repeatedly uses the “f” word, referring to the 12 disciples as a “bunch of “f” ups”. Former ELCA Head Bishop Mark Hanson praises the book on the dustcover. Even more disturbing is that Bolz-Weber in a sermon on Christ the King Sunday denied that Christ died in our place to pay for our sins. To quote:
And just to be clear: The cross is not about God as divine child abuser sadly sending his little boy off to be killed because we were bad and well, somebody had to pay.
Can someone deny the things of “first importance” as Paul puts it in I Corinthians 15:3, and still be a Christian? Yet she is a favorite speaker at ELCA events.
This attack on Christ’s substitutionary atonement is also going on at the ELCA’s Wartburg Seminary. Professor of New Testament David Lull wrote this:
" . . .I can’t get past the idea that God had a thirst for innocent blood that had to be quenched, or that God’s justice required a death-penalty for sinners until Jesus’ death satisfied God’s wrath. Even if Bible passages can be made to support these ideas, I can’t get past the idea that God had been unforgiving before Jesus died. That’s not the God I find in the Bible."
“Even if” the Bible teaches it, Professor Lull rejects it.
So now the day has come that the ELCA allows pastors and professors to deny the central teaching of the Christian faith: that sinless Jesus Christ died in our place to pay for our sins so that we could receive the forgiveness of God.
Like I said, a very sad day walking through Luther Seminary.
10/30/2013 09:52:02 pm
Thank God for steadfast shepherds like Lutheran pastor Tom Brock who, unlike their faithless ELCA counterparts, are faithful to preach and teach God's Word.
10/31/2013 12:32:05 am
If these liberal theologians and pastors no longer believed Lutheran Biblical Christianity, why couldn't they at least be honest and leave the ELCA for Unitarian Universalism, their true "faith"? Do they not see that the false doctrines they are putting into the minds of the congregations which they serve, are alarming to them and serve only to weaken their faith in the Scriptures which their leaders ostensibly swore to uphold? I guess fancy robes, fat paychecks and promotion of vulgarized apostasy are more important than the flocks which they are leading away from Jesus Christ to their doctrines of demons.
10/31/2013 04:39:59 am
It is irrelevant why such a profligate group would not go associate with a "church" more in line with their beliefs/unbeliefs. These profligate unbelievers are parasites, feed off of any remaining moral capital that the Lutheran Church still might have. When the carcass is picked dry, they will move on to another body of believers to infest and feed off their heritage.
11/1/2013 09:50:52 am
11/1/2013 03:51:29 am
This, above all else, was the guiding force and drive for me to forsake the denomination that ordained me in 1977. Little could I have guessed that warm June morning that the Christ I promised to follow and proclaim...and "woe to me, if I did not preach it," would move to this cesspool of notions and heresies.
11/1/2013 11:32:40 am
Don't give these people your money. Don't go to their "churches." Get up and walk out and find a Church that preaches the Gospel. At this point it is not the ELCA leadership, it is the people of God that ignores and denies the fact that this entire denomination has gone apostate. <<WHAT WOULD LUTHER DO?? WHAT WOULD YOUR LUTHERAN ANCESTORS DO?
11/2/2013 11:52:44 pm
Martin Luther would do what Dan is doing on this forum: "Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them."
11/2/2013 10:34:32 am
The problem is that when people read something like this, they think that all Lutherans believe like this. I can tell you that the Seminary that I attend has not, and would not teach or endorse anything like what was written here.
11/3/2013 11:17:19 pm
When I look at the ELCA church which my wife and I left before becoming LCMS members, I saw the top two households who provide 90% of the funding for that church were both theologially liberal, despite their advanced age. And when the Lord's Prayer was printed in the bulletin with the words "Our Father and Mother who is within us", my wife, myself and perhaps four other people refused to pray the blasphemy. The rest went right on along with the printed words. Hmm, are they praying to one being or two?
11/4/2013 03:49:40 pm
Thank God for your site. I just discovered it through Robert Gagnon. I will look for you on facebook.
11/8/2013 07:54:30 am
While I hear where you're coming from, I don't hear a rejection of Christ's work on the cross from either person, but rather they are repeating questions raised critiquing St Anselm's atonement theory. Gerhard Forde makes the same critiques of St. Anselm's in "caught in the act."
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