Good stuff. I obviously would not tell someone they have no integrity, but I do not think it is true to say those on the other side are "reading the Bible with integrity" if they come to the conclusion that the bible says homosexuality is fine. Pastor, really, if someone can conclude the bible says its fine, are they really reading it with integrity? They may have integrity but they are not reading the Bible with integrity. I feel fine judging that. That is what I was trying to say before. I think if you rereading my last email it may make more sense now.
God's word will always stand. To me, that doesn't mean we don't stand up for it. Jesus challenge the Jewish leaders in their understanding of the law and traditions. John the Baptist called out people's sin and challenged them to repent. There are multiple ways to lead people to Christ. Some will come by sharing your story and listening, some will come by hearing the good news, some will have a great revelation by God, some will come by fire and brimstone. I don't feel bad about stating my opinion and just as those on the other side do not feel bad about stating there opinion. If people are offended by me saying homosexuality is wrong, they have a problem with the Bible and God. I am not afraid to say what the Bible clearly says. Honestly, I gently state to people of opposing views what God's word says. Doesn't it say God's word is offensive to some? I'd rather people be offended then compromise God's word.
I spoke at the forum for 30 seconds yesterday, and listened for around 2 hours. The only one I am having this conversation with is you. If we are on the same side of the issue how am I alienating those who are for the ELCA position? Maybe you don't like that I sent a couple of emails in the past about the ELCA decision, to family and friends. If that is the case, I really make no apologies. I stand firm against the ELCA in what they teach and the decisions they have made. I will not be a ELCA member and I want everyone to know the heresy in the ELCA denomination. I can not state that more strongly.
What the ELCA has decided is a done deal. As for me, dialogue and community with the denomination is not a goal anymore. Another way to say it is, if the ELCA as a whole, decided to worship Satan and Jesus would we all stick around and dialogue with them as we proudly claim to be ELCA?
Again God's word can stand up to any attack but people are being lead away from God's truth and that is worth standing up for.
I think people are scared because they worry people will leave the church. I don't want people to leave the church myself. But with that said, I don't want us as a church to compremise on these issues or to hook our train to a denomination that teaches the way the ELCA is now.
With that said, I will honor your time and close this. You know my thoughts .
Again, with that said please hear me say, I apprieciate your thoughts.
God's word will always stand. To me, that doesn't mean we don't stand up for it. Jesus challenge the Jewish leaders in their understanding of the law and traditions. John the Baptist called out people's sin and challenged them to repent. There are multiple ways to lead people to Christ. Some will come by sharing your story and listening, some will come by hearing the good news, some will have a great revelation by God, some will come by fire and brimstone. I don't feel bad about stating my opinion and just as those on the other side do not feel bad about stating there opinion. If people are offended by me saying homosexuality is wrong, they have a problem with the Bible and God. I am not afraid to say what the Bible clearly says. Honestly, I gently state to people of opposing views what God's word says. Doesn't it say God's word is offensive to some? I'd rather people be offended then compromise God's word.
I spoke at the forum for 30 seconds yesterday, and listened for around 2 hours. The only one I am having this conversation with is you. If we are on the same side of the issue how am I alienating those who are for the ELCA position? Maybe you don't like that I sent a couple of emails in the past about the ELCA decision, to family and friends. If that is the case, I really make no apologies. I stand firm against the ELCA in what they teach and the decisions they have made. I will not be a ELCA member and I want everyone to know the heresy in the ELCA denomination. I can not state that more strongly.
What the ELCA has decided is a done deal. As for me, dialogue and community with the denomination is not a goal anymore. Another way to say it is, if the ELCA as a whole, decided to worship Satan and Jesus would we all stick around and dialogue with them as we proudly claim to be ELCA?
Again God's word can stand up to any attack but people are being lead away from God's truth and that is worth standing up for.
I think people are scared because they worry people will leave the church. I don't want people to leave the church myself. But with that said, I don't want us as a church to compremise on these issues or to hook our train to a denomination that teaches the way the ELCA is now.
With that said, I will honor your time and close this. You know my thoughts .
Again, with that said please hear me say, I apprieciate your thoughts.
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